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gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Krypton
Oh yea? The insurance companies, doctors, and drug companies are controlled by the government? Bull.

Now, you are deluded. The government has their hands in the running of healthcare insurance companies. And a large hand.
elFreak
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
No, it was from people talking about wait times, quality of service, etc going WAY down. Not just some US bull that gets spewed out.

Also, I too support a two-tier system. In fact, I talked about this a bit more in depth with Theresa and Craig when I was in Canada. That how a single tier just is failure in a large population, but that the government could easily establish a baseline level of care, and they provide certain other things, but we have to get an insurance that would be administered like the US system is now through employers, to provide anything above that standard of care.


if i want something quicker i am willing to pay for it.

natural selection imo, those who aren't poor go first...but those who are poor can get cancer get treated and not owe 50 grand.

also about wait times.

i needed an x ray and stiches in miami and it cost me 4 grand. wait time maybe an hour.


last time i needed an xray in canada i waited 2 hours and it was free.

i'll take canada:p

also mentioning theresa = no credibility whatsoever to anything you say anymore. It is like paraphrasing googooly.
Krypton
quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Now, you are deluded. The government has their hands in the running of healthcare insurance companies. And a large hand.


Oh yea? So which health care company does the gov't have a majority equity stake in?
gehzumteufel
quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
if i want something quicker i am willing to pay for it.

natural selection imo, those who aren't poor go first...but those who are poor can get cancer and not owe 50 grand.

also about wait times.

i needed an z ray and stiches in miami and it cost me 4 grand. wait time maybe an hour.

last time i needed an xray in canada i waited 2 hours and it was free.

i'll take canada:p


Hey, everyone has their price man. I wait very little, get in and out, and I pay like $50. I have health insurance.


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Originally posted by Krypton
Oh yea? So which health care company does the gov't have a majority equity stake in?

Regulation dude. Regulation.
elFreak
re read the edit about theresa:p

seriously ben listening to retards makes you one:p
Krypton
quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Regulation dude. Regulation.


Such as? The financial sector also has high levels of regulation but I don't think you would say that it is also nationalized.
gehzumteufel
quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
re read the edit about theresa:p

seriously ben listening to retards makes you one:p

lol she wasn't really discussing it much. It was more Craig and I. She had some thoughts, but didn't really input much.
elFreak
she always has thoughts and they are always stupid.
gehzumteufel
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Such as? The financial sector also has high levels of regulation but I don't think you would say that it is also nationalized.

It isn't nationalized but the way the government makes the insurance companies "compete" actually helps continue with the current health insurance situation.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by elFreak
she always has thoughts and they are always stupid.

lol they weren't stupid at all, but I am not here to convince you otherwise.

Krypton
We'v gone from GM bankruptcy, to vehicle safety standards, to now, socialized health care. This thread pwns.
DOOMBOT
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Originally posted by Krypton
DOOMBOT said, "And how do you think they [gov't] perform this task?" I was simply pointing to those countries as an example. Don't over analyze what I say please.

You also didn't answer my question.
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