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Libya Situation (pg. 41)
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
I have seen you throughout the years complain about US support of dictatorships in the Middle East. While this may be true, the one time when the people themselves rise up, and ask for our help and are obliged, you immediately go into "Evil Empire" mode. |
I don’t think we have all the facts straight in Libya. Mind you this is simply from my own observations and I really don’t want to jump into any conclusions just yet. Time will tell if getting involved in Libya was a wise decision or not.
I truly hope that that everything would have a positive outcome at the end but you cannot simply forget the past conflicts and history has shown us that by getting involved in a country’s political matters and taking sides doesn’t always have happy endings. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
my own observations ... don’t want to jump into any conclusions just yet. |
:wtf:
The resistance is no longer in need of your services, hardcore trancer. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
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I don't even know where to begin with this level of bull, truly amazing in both it's depth and breadth. The only thing that's accurate about this is that Kucinich is an utter twat. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I don't even know where to begin with this level of bull, truly amazing in both it's depth and breadth. The only thing that's accurate about this is that Kucinich is an utter twat. |
Haha... so the cited coalition names and sizes, cited congressional resoultions (and lack of), UN resolution names, UN Security Council vote tallies, dates of operation and address to nation, and cited concurrent military operations are all inaccurate lies? :stongue: |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Haha... so the cited coalition names and sizes, cited congressional resoultions (and lack of), UN resolution names, UN Security Council vote tallies, dates of operation and address to nation, and cited concurrent military operations are all inaccurate lies? :stongue: |
Indeed, becuase your premis is a complete fallacy.
Iraq was only about finding those WMD's? remember :p
oops, none found, so let's make it about regime change against a horrible dictator, that'll do it. Oh darn, that won't work because the UN resolution specifically didn't allow that.
Oh, but hold on, the UN resolution didn't actually allow any force for breach of the resolution so USA and Britain just stormed in there and as the recent inquiry in London found, it was a clear breach of international law.
Bugger, let's just glaze over all those pesky details by touting a congressional resolution (for what that's worth).
No? Ok let's mention some stuff about al-qaeda being in cahoots with Ghadaffi and maybe some of that mud will stick. lol.
Oh and as for the date thing, yeah, bush was quick to announce and make that address, nearly like he had it planned and everything well in advance. But of course no, it was just good timing on his part. You, know, because he was real good at that kind of thing.
C'mon now, even you can do better than this pile of junk. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Indeed, becuase your premis is a complete fallacy.
Iraq was only about finding those WMD's? remember :p
oops, none found, so let's make it about regime change against a horrible dictator, that'll do it. Oh darn, that won't work because the UN resolution specifically didn't allow that. |
True none were found (save the 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium that was unearthed at the nuclear research center of Al-Tuwaitha, but who's counting?). But in fact, regime change was expressly part of the plan going in.
| quote: | | Oh, but hold on, the UN resolution didn't actually allow any force for breach of the resolution so USA and Britain just stormed in there and as the recent inquiry in London found, it was a clear breach of international law. |
Stop trying to re-write history. US and Britain + 47 other countries signed on as part of the coalition to be precise.
| quote: | Oh and as for the date thing, yeah, bush was quick to announce and make that address, nearly like he had it planned and everything well in advance. But of course no, it was just good timing on his part. You, know, because he was real good at that kind of thing.
C'mon now, even you can do better than this pile of junk. |
"like it had been planned"? Dude... the process Bush took to get Congressional approval took 9 months. Barack the foreign policy genius took about what, 3-4 weeks and was more concerned with the ambiguous Arab League's approval than he was to consult with his own Congress. |
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| tubularbills |
| hey so how about that green flag, eh? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
"like it had been planned"? Dude... the process Bush took to get Congressional approval took 9 months. Barack the foreign policy genius took about what, 3-4 weeks and was more concerned with the ambiguous Arab League's approval than he was to consult with his own Congress. |
The situation you are bitching about is a little different, but god damn Kevin, you are a ing retard.
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Also Kevin, I am keeping note of how much you were going "GOD DAMN IT, GOD GOD DAMN IT BRAH BRAH BRAH OBAMA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS GHADFI FELLA RIGHT NOW BRAH BRAH BRAH!"
That is so when in a few months or a year or whenever it happens you can't come back and be like "Obama supported anti-americans that took over Libya" cause you are mr. rush-the--in-there-and-help-whoever-the--is-fighting-ghdafi. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
All of these "facts" sure do smell funny after I pull them out of my ass. |
All of the Republican morons who were up in arms over the fact that America didn't rush in to the support of the Libyan rebels who are now up in arms over our involvement in enforcing this UN resolution should have their arms cut off. They seem to conveniently forget that this isn't a full-scale ground invasion as Iraq was as well. I suppose Obama getting it right this time is a small condolence for the families of the thousands of American soldiers who lost their lives helping the Iraqi people who didn't ask for help. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The situation you are bitching about is a little different, but god damn Kevin, you are a ing retard.
"OBAMA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS GHADFI FELLA RIGHT NOW" |
And you still have no evidence of me saying it. in' tough guy talking big through the computer in mom's basement as usual. Keep at it you ing piece of . I can't wait till karma decides that it's time to settle up. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm a bigger than Joss Weatherby... thought you'd like to know. |
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