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Libya Situation (pg. 51)
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
has no desire to be policed by your government. (republican or democratic...it doesn't matter.) |
In that case of Iraq you are correct, but but was pretty clear that the Libyan rebels were asking for our assistance. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| They asked for international assistance, and last time i checked international does not mean just the US. |
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| Zharen |
| When the PDD goes horribly wrong in the COR... |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Just asking, but are either of you sure how far apart on what you're arguing, you really are? |
Absolutely we are. He thinks the US went to war at the behest of bush & cheney because they wanted to pad their bank account. I think that the US went to war due to the neo-conservatives dominating the republican party, who had long held desires to remove saddam from power, reduce the US’ dependence on hostile oil and create a democratic nation more suitable for US interests in the region.
One of us thinks that there is texture and nuance to global politics and the other thinks 2 men invaded iraq. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
They asked for international assistance, and last time i checked international does not mean just the US. |
Last time I checked they were in a situation where they didn't give a who stopped those tanks coming at them. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
In that case of Iraq you are correct, but but was pretty clear that the Libyan rebels were asking for our assistance. |
I didn't think the part where you quoted him he was talking about Libya at all, though feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Jay. Seemed like he was more talking in general about how it doesn't matter if the U.S. is Republican or Democratic led, people abroad aren't American citizens and we don't have any right to tell them what to think or want. |
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| igottaknow |
| Sorry to interrupt but I always wanted to know why Kadafi is still only a Colonel. I thought by now he would have been promoted to General. |
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| Zharen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Seemed like he was more talking in general about how it doesn't matter if the U.S. is Republican or Democratic led, people abroad aren't American citizens and we don't have any right to tell them what to think or want. |
And that's why I don't understand how a US anti-narcotics division can even have jurisdiction in a foreign country. They are making arrests on people who aren't even American citizens. But I guess I'm just a hopelessly misguided liberal for pointing this out.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/20...rco-Insurgency/
| quote: | AFGHANISTAN -- The Drug Enforcement Administration started fighting the illegal drug trade in 1973. Its main focus: keeping drugs out of the U.S.
However, in recent years, the agency has expanded its mission to tracking drugs to their source - a strategy which puts them at the center of the War on Terror.
DEA FAST Teams
Five years ago, fewer than a dozen DEA agents were responsible for covering all of Afghanistan. Today, there are nearly 100 agents. That's because the fight there is against a narco-insurgency, meaning the Taliban receive a large part of their funding from illegal drug activity.
As the U.S. military works to defeat the enemy and minimize collateral damage, the DEA is using its Foreign Deployed Assistance and Support, or FAST, teams to help hunt for Taliban drug kingpins.
"We do basically all the types of operations we would do back home," said one DEA official, who spoke with CBN News on condition of anonymity for security reasons. "Whether a search warrant, an arrest warrant, seizure of drugs, any type of counternarcotics law enforcement, we train our Afghan counterparts in those same kind of missions.
"We are not military. We are law enforcement," he explained. "So what we do is when we come over to Afghanistan - what gives us the ability to function and work in this country -- is going along with our Afghan counterparts."
"We are there to advise and mentor and train them in counternarcotics law and procedures," he said. "And we're really starting to see some good effects come from that." |
I suppose one can argue that the DEA isn't making the arrests themselves, but simply instructing the Afghanis on how to do this, but it seems like they are pushing their own anti-narcotic agenda onto a foreign country. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
I didn't think the part where you quoted him he was talking about Libya at all, though feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Jay. Seemed like he was more talking in general about how it doesn't matter if the U.S. is Republican or Democratic led, people abroad aren't American citizens and we don't have any right to tell them what to think or want. |
If that were the case he would've said so in his response. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
If that were the case he would've said so in his response. |
I think he was just going with it :p
But then again, I could be completely wrong. That's just how he came across to me, especially in the context of the original post :) |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zharen
And that's why I don't understand how a US anti-narcotics division can even have jurisdiction in a foreign country. They are making arrests on people who aren't even American citizens. But I guess I'm just a hopelessly misguided liberal for pointing this out.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/20...rco-Insurgency/
I suppose one can argue that the DEA isn't making the arrests themselves, but simply instructing the Afghanis on how to do this, but it seems like they are pushing their own anti-narcotic agenda onto a foreign country. |
All the answers to your questions are in the article. They have the jurisdiction because they are just going along with Afghan DEA agents. They're training them and advising them.
And, as they mentioned, it's not pushing our own anti-narcotic agenda on to them, it's the fact that the Taliban gets a huge amount of their money from the drug trade, and the Afghan government (in theory, at least), does not want the Taliban to exist. |
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