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Libya Situation (pg. 6)
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Whats the security council going to do, give them 24 hours to stop killing their citizens or else lol If the security council had balls, they would have flattened every military base in Libya by now. The only way the US or any other country on that council will intervene is if someone ends up blowing something up or flying another plane into a building. |
sounds reasonable... :rolleyes: |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Apparently senior clerics in Libya have declared a fatwa against Gaddafi. |
Haha... yes this was issued by the peaceful Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi.
I'm wondering when Obama is going to weigh in and finally condemn the mass murder being committed against Libya's civilians by Gaddafi's regime. WTF man, say something! Don't just sit there on the sideline all quiet! |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Haha... yes this was issued by the peaceful Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi.
I'm wondering when Obama is going to weigh in and finally condemn the mass murder being committed against Libya's civilians by Gaddafi's regime. WTF man, say something! Don't just sit there on the sideline all quiet! |
lol obama doing anything.. keep "hoping" :p |
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| Lira |
Kevin, as a foreigner, I can see why Obama has not said anything yet. If he says a word, it'll be easy to blame the US for the riots, and Anti-American sentiments are so strong in the area that they may see his well-intended interference as an unnecessary meddling with their own affairs.
Believe me, if it happened in Brazil (back when we had our very own dictatorship... which the US supported, by the way) that's exactly what would've happened. Nationalism is that stupid. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Kevin, as a foreigner, I can see why Obama has not said anything yet. If he says a word, it'll be easy to blame the US for the riots, and Anti-American sentiments are so strong in the area that they may see his well-intended interference as an unnecessary meddling with their own affairs.
Believe me, if it happened in Brazil (back when we had our very own dictatorship... which the US supported, by the way) that's exactly what would've happened. Nationalism is that stupid. |
yeah... I hear you man. what you're saying makes sense. it's just that, in the past, our presidents would stand up and immediately denounce that behavior by a government against its people and back the people.
Check out what Libya's ambassador to the US just said:
| quote: | “I want the U.S. to tell the world and to work with the countries who love peace…they have to stop this,” Ambassador Ali Ojli said, suggesting that he had resigned his post, in an interview with Al Jazeera English.
“I would never ask us to intervene physically in Libya,” he said, but called on the Obama Administration to “take a strong position that what’s happening in libya must be stopped now… and to avoid giving the impression to the Arab world that the West “has only a materialist mind — they don’t care about human rights… except when it comes to their own interest.”
“You see them raising their voices about iran … because they have some interest in in Iran…. When it comes to other countries they don’t raise their voice,” he said, adding that the Arab and Muslim world won’t “trust america or the west if they behave that way.” |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
yeah... I hear you man. what you're saying makes sense. it's just that, in the past, our presidents would stand up and immediately denounce that behavior by a government against its people and back the people. |
LOL.
The state department already released a statement. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Check out what Libya's ambassador to the US just said: |
It's a valid point, I give you that. But, maybe, the reason why Obama has hesitated to do something is because quite often the denouncements of earlier regimes seem to have backfired: at school I was taught that the US was a bully and the latter half of the previous century was all about the fight of two tyrannical countries. It's thanks to TA (hah!) that I think Anti-Americanism is a joke, and maybe they're experimenting with a new approach.
What did the statement say, Nou? Are they going to do something about it or just say Gaddafi stinks? |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
LOL.
The state department already released a statement. |
who gives a what Hillary Clinton says!? The man in charge is voting 'present' again as always. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
who gives a what Hillary Clinton says!? The man in charge is voting 'present' again as always. |
So you agree with Lira that the situation needs tact and careful wording and presentation... Yet you want the president to stand up anyways and make bold statements with little or no thought to what the repercussions might be?
You know we elected someone smarter than most Americans for a reason Kevin? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
You know we elected someone smarter than most Americans for a reason Kevin? |
Because Bush supported the other guy? :toothless |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
So you agree with Lira that the situation needs tact and careful wording and presentation... Yet you want the president to stand up anyways and make bold statements with little or no thought to what the repercussions might be?
You know we elected someone smarter than most Americans for a reason Kevin? |
again with that hilarious line. on what, exactly, do you base the claim that he's at some level of intelligence that most people could only dream of? you have no school records, no grades, no standardized test scores to go by. nothing. not having earned a high school diploma, I can see how that may be overlooked by you.
Anyway, when an authoritarian despot leader authorizes the carpet bombing and shooting of its citizenry, yes I don't think it's too much to ask for the leader of the free world to make a bold statement denouncing it. you should be an ambassador man... you got the skillz. |
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