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Jihad on Denmark - freedom of expression rears its ugly head once again... (pg. 24)
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Philby
hehe i think thats brilliant :D |
On a pure busy level sure, the demand is definately there!
But he might as well be handing them a pack o' matches, some lighter fluid and waving, "Happy burning!" on the way out... |
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| kamil |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by kamil
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ha ha ha ha that is so funny, |
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| EvilTree |
This thread is getting too serious.
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Leave a Message in the Anonymous Muslim Man Complaint Box
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
I saw on the TV that there is a show now with a woman host. This is not very bad by itself because the woman was dressed in accordance with the laws of Islam and did not expose herself and inflame the lust of any male guests. However, this woman was having a talk with guests and things got a bit out of control when the woman host said "no, I don't think so" to one of the guests. I was so mad I told my wife to drown herself in the bathtub while I finished watching the show. Then, later in the show, the host says "you are wrong" to a doctor! I could not believe it!
Please see if you could beat this woman with a chain and I thank you in advance.
Inshallah Muslim Man Complaint Box,
My child was drawing pictures for school and this is forbidden. What makes the situation worse is that the picture was of our whole family and also blessed Mohammad. It was not a very clear picture of Mohammad and I think his likeness would be considered obscured by the scriptures. Just to be sure I hanged my son and burned his body and then my brothers burned the school and also hanged the teacher. What I want to know is what can be done about the ability to draw? Any child can go about creating blasphemous rendering of Mohammad! This is lightning in the hands of the unprotected. My son is in the afterlife now because of these crayons and "construction" paper, which I say is "destruction" paper. That is a little joke, but I am not laughing. Something must be done.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
This is a complaint in general about women these days. Things are getting out of control with the influences of the West and they are more willing than ever to speak their minds. Yesterday I thought I heard a woman whisper "Ally McBeal" in a marketplace to another woman and then their heads turned to each other like they might be making eye-contact through the mesh screens hiding their eyes. I do not know if anything can be done about this, but I would like to find myself a good Muslim wife.
Also death to America, death to Israel, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
I am a devoted Muslim man living in the heart of the beast. I live within the Jew-cursed border of the state of Jew Jewrsey in Jewmerica and I am very unhappy. The other day I heard an American man say that Islam is not a religion of peace. This is intolerable and doubly so when the laws of America prevent me from cutting out his tongue, setting fire to his house and taking his wife as my own. I demand that something be done about this and also death to Israel.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
I am a devoted follower of the Prophet Mohammed living in the occupied land of Iraq. I am not an insurgent, I am just an honest man trying to live my life. There is an American by the name of Pete Reynolds who sometimes buys baklava from my shop and he is very nice. The problem is I found out a few weeks ago that he was an atheist when I was talking to him. I know it is my duty to kill all infidels, but I was wondering if exceptions could possibly be made if the infidels are particularly friendly. Perhaps I could simply wound the infidels or hurt their feelings very badly. He was fat as all decadent Westerners usually are and I think maybe I could have made some rude comments about that to him and he might have even killed himself. Anyway, no biggie, he was beheaded a couple days ago when the United States refused to release Jalal "The Red Hand of Allah" Al Harami. Get back to me when you get a chance.
PS - Death to Israel
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
Hey, I don't know if you noticed, but my entire family lives in a ******* bomb crater eating leaves all day. I know Death to Israel, Death to America and all that but do you think you could take a look at installing a floor in my crater or something? I'm on your side, I'm Muslim, I just think we need to prioritize better. Maybe ease back on the "death to X" stuff and look into paved roads and running water. When I can afford to buy a car I promise to load the trunk full of fertilizer and drive it into a Jewish wedding. Let's just get me to the "buy a car" part first.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
Waddup mah G-had niggaz. I'm ridin' high in U to the A to the E and I just wanna kno what a nigga can do to drop dem bombs on tha club. My main Mullah nigga MC Ishuan got hot tracks like napalm and he be wantin' to roll on up with some OBL samples but a nigga be livin in caves and crap. Get me tha GPS and I'll send tha stretch hummer out to pick his *** up. Hit me up on my blackberry and it's on like Alizzy Jizzyerizzy.
D2A, D2I, TTYL
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
I like cowboys and I think that means I have to cut my hands off. That kind of sucks.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
My daughter was raped by my neighbor and we burned her alive because she was tainted. My issue is that I think I should be able to rape his daughter back instead of having to burn my perfectly good daughter. So she was raped, so what? All of her parts still worked. She could still cook a meal. She could still find a good husband. She could still catch a beating like a net. I think this situation is unfair.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
the offensive against Christmas in the United States is stalling. Our enemies at Fox News have caught on to our plans and they are hunting down our operatives. Just last week Yasser was caught by the pig dogs trying to set fire to a Holiday Store in the McCormick Mall. Their nativities are multiplying unchecked! Please send reinforcements!
Also if there are any openings I would like to request a transfer to the Death to Israel division. This is pretty much a BS job.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
Megadittos! Hey, I was just wondering if you could look into moving Sunnis out of the "fidel" category and over to the "infidel" one. I think they are collaborating with the West because I saw one talking to a Russian who I don't think was Muslim and he also didn't look overly serious about killing Israel. Just look into it when you get a chance.
Dear Muslim Man Complaint Box,
I am displeased with the way that Shi'ites drive because they drive one way and we Sunnis drive a completely different way.
Desperately Seeking Fatwah in Damascus |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdarren
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There's quite a lot of inaccuracies and misrepresentations in that article. The problem with that is:
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
If that is an accurate desciption of how events occured, it means the journalists were arrogant and just looking for controversy to sell. That is indeed not the best of attitudes. |
And if this is the kind of "reporting" you get in supposedly secular Turkey, then I can start to understand why tempers are flying and most of the Middle East is impossible to reason with. Sad, really.
| quote: | Originally posted by djdarren
by the way about this freedom of speech.im totally supporting it but there should be strict borders. freedom of speech must not insult human beings. |
How about this: It insults me when people are speaking on behalf of others without their consent. Hence, Imams all over the world should STFU about women and their place in society. But as that would limit the Imams' ability to practice their belief, that would insult them, and hence I should STFU. But then they are insulting me again, and they should STFU, and so on.
Do you see the problem with your definition of "free speech"?
Btw. at first, a lot of US media outlets patted themselves on the back as they "didn't need to provoke, as they felt secure in their protection by the first amendment". Now, however, it looks like the US media will have to do some soul searching:
| quote: | NY Press Kills Cartoons; Staff Walks Out
The editorial staff of the alternative weekly New York Press walked out today, en masse, after the paper's publishers backed down from printing the Danish cartoons that have become the center of a global free-speech fight.
Editor-in-Chief Harry Siegel emails, on behalf of the editorial staff:
New York Press, like so many other publications, has suborned its own professed principles. For all the talk of freedom of speech, only the New York Sun locally and two other papers nationally have mustered the
minimal courage needed to print simple and not especially offensive editorial cartoons that have been used as a pretext for great and greatly menacing violence directed against journalists, cartoonists, humanitarian aid workers, diplomats and others who represent the basic values and obligations of Western civilization. Having been ordered at the 11th hour to pull the now-infamous Danish cartoons from an issue dedicated to them, the editorial group—consisting of myself, managing editor Tim Marchman, arts editorJonathan Leaf and one-man city hall bureau Azi Paybarah, chose instead to resign our positions.
We have no desire to be free speech martyrs, but it would have been nakedly hypocritical to avoid the same cartoons we'd criticized others for not running, cartoons that however absurdly have inspired arson, kidnapping and murder and forced cartoonists in at least two continents to go into hiding. Editors have already been forced to leave papers in Jordan and France for having run these cartoons. We have no illusions about the power of the Press (NY Press, we mean), but even on the far margins of the world-historical stage, we are not willing to side with the enemies of the values we hold dear, a free press not least among them.
This was not an easy decision. I've been reading the Press since 1988 and have dreamed of running it for nearly as long. The paper's editorial staff has worked impossibly hard hours and has come quite a ways in only a few months towards restoring the paper's tarnished editorial reputation and credibility. I'm proud of the work we've
done, and wish we'd had time to finish the job. I wish the Press all the best, and hope that under new ownership and leadership it can again be an invaluable read for all good Gothamites. |
and even among the republican right, there's quarrels (from Michelle Malkin's blog):
| quote: | I appeared tonight on Fox News Channel's Hannity and Colmes for an all-too-brief segment on the Mohammed Cartoons. Before I drove to the Washington, D.C., studio, I stopped by a Kinko's store, printed out the cartoons, and pasted them onto a piece of poster board. I then used my short time on the airwaves to do what no one wants to do on American TV:
I tried to show viewers all 12 cartoons to give viewers the full context of the Jyllands-Posten's decision to publish the artwork.
Unfortunately, as I tried to walk through the content of the cartoons, the camera cut from my display to video of the Islamists' crazed, violent protests. As if we hadn't seen enough of that already.
What are the news networks and newspapers so afraid of? [Update: See the New York Press walkout for a rare show of guts and principle.]
Why do they persist in leaving viewers in a cloud of ignorance about this international controversy? Cherry-picking the most arguably inflammatory cartoon--the one of Muhammad and the bomb turban--and implying that it is representative of the rest of the artwork is not journalism.
That's journalistic malpractice.
And it's exactly what the radical Islamists are counting on the cowering MSM to do.
I had a nice chat with another FOX News personality before my segment. This person hadn't seen all the cartoons--but had already formed a firm opinion that the Jyllands-Posten was being unnecessarily provocative and insensitive.
Is it any wonder that millions of people are turning to the Internet to get to the truth?
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There also wasn't enough time to address the other most important aspect of the Cartoon Jihad -- the fabrication of truly anti-Islam cartoons by Danish imams, who did precisely what the Jyllands-Posten is unfairly blamed for doing--that is, deliberately inciting Muslims to violence.
But you won't hear much, if anything at all, about this in the MSM, either.
Why not? |
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| HardTranceProd |
^^ In response to this post
Americans are very queasy in general. They have the sensitivities of little children. |
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| paranoik0 |
Thinking more carefully, I really agree with the point of view of that editor. In our countries, as long as we treat muslims with respect, we should not be forced to live our lifes by their laws! The only thing I'm not confortable with is this eventually being used as an argument to stop letting muslim people imigrate into Europe. |
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| paranoik0 |
oh, and stolen from the COR:
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| trancaholic |
Last night a local group of Danish Muslims held a demonstration in favour of Denmark. Their numbers weren't as impressive as the 2000 that held an anti-Denmark rally some months ago, but then again, unlike the case with radicals, moderate Muslims tend to get death threats when they display their laid back attitude.
Furthermore, a new Muslim network in Denmark have decided to place ads in favour of Denmark in papers in the Middle East. As the group said: "Seeing that those who instigated this [the travelling imams] are unwilling to correct the misinterpretations, we'll do it".
Finally, a group of Iranians living in Denmark have decided to protest the burnings of the Danish embassies this saturday.
In general, it seems to me that foreigners in Denmark are getting much more intent on getting involved - which I think is positive.
Another development: As you may or may not be aware, an Iranian paper is going to run a competition on producing cartoons on the holocaust. To reveal the hypocracy of the West of course.
According to CNN, Jyllands-posten has grabbed this bull by the balls, and asked the Iranian paper to share the cartoons with it, so that they can publish them at the same day - in effect deflating the Iranian stunt and puncturing the stupid misconceptions on free press that most of the Middle East seem to suffer from.
In fact I wrote Jyllands-posten yesterday and suggested that they did a special on humour, and published cartoons mocking all and everything, to make it perfectly clear that Denmark enjoys absolute free speech. Maybe this will suffice - apparently it is this topic that Arabs have been giving most attention.
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Americans are very queasy in general. They have the sensitivities of little children. |
Hmm. My impression was that people in the US were pretty easygoing. Anyway, the decisions to keep the cartoons out of the public's eye, had probably little to do with concerns regarding sensitivities:
| quote: | COVERING A CONTROVERSY ABOUT MOHAMMED, THE NEW YORK TIMES RUNS... VIRGIN MARY IN ELEPHANT DUNG
So - the New York Times writes about the Danish cartoon controversy, and includes a photo of demonstrators... and one other photo. The caption:
Chris Ofili's "Holy Virgin Mary" was at the center of controversy when shown at the Brooklyn Museum in 1999.
Yup, it's the Virgin Mary depicted in elephant dung painting.
What a bunch of wimps. They'll run photos of art that offends Christians from seven years ago in a heartbeat, but they won't dare run a cartoon that could offend their Muslim readers. |
From this blog
Also, Alan Dershowitz gives a couple of examples of "sensitive" cases, which the US media has reported on, in this interview with Danish TV:
http://www.dvd2dvd.org/alandershowitzinterview.wmv
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
The only thing I'm not confortable with is this eventually being used as an argument to stop letting muslim people imigrate into Europe. |
If by "immigrate", you mean "flee Islamism", then I hope you're wrong. In Denmark I have yet to detect any kind of new resentment towards Muslims in general. People seem to focus their anger on JP and the government (if they're PC fvcks), or the Travelling Imams and everyone in the Middle East (if they're free speech fundamentalists). |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
Last night a local group of Danish Muslims held a demonstration in favour of Denmark. Their numbers weren't as impressive as the 2000 that held an anti-Denmark rally some months ago, but then again, unlike the case with radicals, moderate Muslims tend to get death threats when they display their laid back attitude.
Furthermore, a new Muslim network in Denmark have decided to place ads in favour of Denmark in papers in the Middle East. As the group said: "Seeing that those who instigated this [the travelling imams] are unwilling to correct the misinterpretations, we'll do it".
Finally, a group of Iranians living in Denmark have decided to protest the burnings of the Danish embassies this saturday.
In general, it seems to me that foreigners in Denmark are getting much more intent on getting involved - which I think is positive. |
| quote: | Another development: As you may or may not be aware, an Iranian paper is going to run a competition on producing cartoons on the holocaust. To reveal the hypocracy of the West of course.
According to CNN, Jyllands-posten has grabbed this bull by the balls, and asked the Iranian paper to share the cartoons with it, so that they can publish them at the same day - in effect deflating the Iranian stunt and puncturing the stupid misconceptions on free press that most of the Middle East seem to suffer from.
In fact I wrote Jyllands-posten yesterday and suggested that they did a special on humour, and published cartoons mocking all and everything, to make it perfectly clear that Denmark enjoys absolute free speech. Maybe this will suffice - apparently it is this topic that Arabs have been giving most attention. |
Hahahaha, that is actually great! :) |
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| trancaholic |
| ^^^ And they've just reeled in.:mad: The head editor now says that it's still to be decided if they'll run these new cartoons - and it will be based on how they actually look... |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
^^^ And they've just reeled in.:mad: The head editor now says that it's still to be decided if they'll run these new cartoons - and it will be based on how they actually look... |
Well I suppose the Iranian newspaper could send some *really* bad ones which might make Jyllands-posten look aweful in the western world and hence undermining the cause here. But yeah it would suck if they didn't publish them :whip: |
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