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Where have all the people gone from Sonic (pg. 19)
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| bambamcdn |
I agree 100% with Cajjmere Wray.......it is very much an environment thing.
I also think that there are dj's that bring a gay'r crowd, Calderone, Morales etc...
But to say that Lexicon or Behrouz would not have gay crowd is completely wrong, most gay house heads were listening to these dj's and most of the talent Sonic is bringing...and I mean TALENT, for years. Look at the resumes of the ado’s coming....Those complaining about gay str8 obviously care more about who’s there and seeing them and hangin out then being in a room and killin it to amazing music, house is about acceptance, equality, etc.....some of you are seriously late VIVA SONIC hehehehe |
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| ChrisD |
| Love sonic, love it, one of my fav places to party, but depends who is playing there. |
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| Patius |
I had written a long comment on this topic, but what is the point. After reading this thread, I believe Toronto does not deserve to have a Temple of House - cannot believe a world class city such as Toronto is still hang up in those issues.
Sonic - my advise to you is ... go gay - we all know the best places to party in any city around the world are gay anyway. |
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| fairy godfather |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
Not at my afterparty; croissants, coffee, fruit only |
I guess you slept through the last after party at your house! Sniff, sniff... |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cajjmere Wray
I've been to several parties at ... TIL ... and if it's a gayer crowd they are expecting then they let it go. Everyone comes in dressed right? A club will not send security around to a MASS amount of guys to tell them to put their shirts back on, LOL. |
I've been to TiL a number of times and I have never seen anyone with their shirt off. As a matter of fact, I've seen bouncers tell people to put their shirts back on.
| quote: | Originally posted by bambamcdn
Those complaining about gay str8 obviously care more about who’s there and seeing them and hangin out then being in a room and killin it to amazing music, house is about acceptance, equality, etc |
I've heard this argument many times before. Boa used to be my main club of choice. One of the reasons why Sonic did not become my main club of choice when it has pretty much a gay club up until recently. I don't mind going to gay events every once in a while, but as a 21 year old male, I want girls at the parties I'm at, and I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not that I care about who is at the party, it's more that I can go to other clubs in the city with quality house DJs playing that is more suited to my sexual orientation. If it's Saturday night and I have a choice between hearing a good DJ at a straight club, and a good DJ at a gay club, I'm obviously going to pick the straight club unless there is a DJ I really want to see at the gay club. This is often the scenario in the Toronto scene right now.
| quote: | Originally posted by Patius
After reading this thread, I believe Toronto does not deserve to have a Temple of House - cannot believe a world class city such as Toronto is still hang up in those issues. |
[color=ccff00]Lol, okay buddy. Just because we don't like to be surrounded by shirtless dudes means that we aren't deserving of a good house club? Who made you the judge of who deserves and who doesn't deserve a good house club? |
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| fairy godfather |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I've been to TiL a number of times and I have never seen anyone with their shirt off. As a matter of fact, I've seen bouncers tell people to put their shirts back on.
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| English Rachel |
| quote: | Originally posted by fairy godfather
I guess you slept through the last after party at your house! Sniff, sniff... |
Don't cry Dan. |
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| Patius |
| quote: | | Lol, okay buddy. Just because we don't like to be surrounded by shirtless dudes means that we aren't deserving of a good house club? Who made you the judge of who deserves and who doesn't deserve a good house club? |
I think you guys decided already - let me see, house music and no t-shirtless guys? yup ... Can you imagine Paradise Garage in NYC with no gay? Stereo with no gays? Crobar with no gays?
Now if we are talking about a temple of trance, for sure everyone will be fully dressed, and I don't expect less from you straight boys. |
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| van haaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Patius
Sonic - my advise to you is ... go gay - we all know the best places to party in any city around the world are gay anyway. |
That's VERY interesting that you make that comment at this particular time in Toronto's gay dance club scene.
Toronto has lost three important gay dance venues - 5ive, Barn and IT Club – and there has been nothing new to replace them. The only remaining club is Fly and I think its only open Saturdays.
If Sonic went totally gay, it would be doing so at a time when there seems to be a market opportunity for a new gay club. Some of the advantages of going gay are that you have an extremely loyal clientele, and gay people have a lot of disposable income and don't mind dropping $35 or $40 for a door charge.
Another advantage is that given Sonic has apparently already been tarred with the "gay" brush, changing the public's perception is going to be pretty difficult at this point and may prove futile in any event. So why not capitalize on the marketing error and just go totally gay? |
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| Patius |
The name "House" is said to derive from the Warehouse district in Chicago. There was a thriving teenage scene there, and soon underground warehouse parties became popular. One of these underground spots that was primarily gay became known as "The Warehouse".
House is notable for its tendency to unify dancers. People seperated on many levels (legal club age vs minors) (wealthy vs poor) (gay vs straight) (punk vs disco) found that the spirit of the music seemd to erase these boundaries in the hearts of those who where on the dance floor.
The resident DJ at The Warehouse, Frankie Knuckles mixed classic disco, European synthpop, new wave, industrial and punk recordings. Club regulars referred to his mixture of sound as house music.
There is still a great deal of controversy surrounding the origins of House music.
But the great diverisity of all many that had played so many parts of the music, is what gave house music the sound it has. No matter what the idology of the music changed the world and brought many people together.
One of the best remembered classics "can you feel it" by Mr Fingers, probally best sums up the spirit of the music. You may be black or white, jew or gentile, gay or straight, when you are in the "House" the lines of diference are erased. In fact Larry Heard, aka Mr Fingers said house music got is name from the people that were making music in their bedrooms in their own house. House Producers / artists became the first generation to use machines to make their music. Simple equipment like synthiziers, drum machines like the Roland 808 the TR 303 which became later known as the Acid Machine, and was the basis upon which the entire Acid House music sound came from.
Frankie Knuckles was not producing his own music at that time. It has been argued that Chip E. in his early recording "It's House" defined this new form of electronic music and gave it its name. However, Chip E claims the name came from methods of labelling records at the Importes Etc record store he worked at in the early 1980s. Music that DJ Knuckles played at the Warehouse was labelled "As Heard At The Warehouse", which was shortened to simply "The House", and the name became the vernacular.
source: http://www.answers.com/topic/house-music |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Patius
I think you guys decided already - let me see, house music and no t-shirtless guys? yup ... Can you imagine Paradise Garage in NYC with no gay? Stereo with no gays? Crobar with no gays?
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You're totally right man. We should ban gays all together from night clubs. In fact, we should ban them from the streets too, just for good measure. |
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| The Highroller |
It's funny how you say this
| quote: | Originally posted by Patius
...and I don't expect less from you straight boys. |
and then this
| quote: | Originally posted by Patius
People seperated on many levels (legal club age vs minors) (wealthy vs poor) (gay vs straight) (punk vs disco) found that the spirit of the music seemd to erase these boundaries in the hearts of those who where on the dance floor.
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One of the best remembered classics "can you feel it" by Mr Fingers, probally best sums up the spirit of the music. You may be black or white, jew or gentile, gay or straight, when you are in the "House" the lines of diference are erased. |
Can you say "hypocrite"? |
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