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Where have all the people gone from Sonic (pg. 9)
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by clyde
I hope we see a response from someone at the club. We certainly heard from Nevio when he didn't want us throwing gum on his new hardwood floors. |
*made me spit out my morning coffee*
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| bambamcdn |
Reading this thread, makes me feel a little disappointed in the city of Toronto. What Boa did and what Sonic has continued is the very reason why we love house music. Do we forget where it came from? the black /gay, subculture of NYC and Chicago. These clubs were open late, booze not a factor, and MUSIC was what brought in the crowd. I feel that Sonic has been bringing in great talent; yes the locals are a bit dry, with the exception of Sean Miller. Remember Industry they did not have the same problems.
I cannot believe that people are still ty about gay/str8 people partying together.... With how progressive Toronto is and how evolved the gay scene is it is a tragedy that there is so much intolerance. As a gay man my self I am not into the washing machine either and I do keep my shirt on at the club. So enforcing that rule I am not opposed to. Maybe folks will spend less time in the gym and more time resting up for a 4am dj slot. For real. Sonic is an after hours experience, I go there because there is not booze, For those that must drink do it, get drunk go rest and then come out. I think alot of the party people need to grow up.
These clubs were open late, booze not a factor, and MUSIC was what brought in the crowd. I feel that Sonic has been bringing in great talent; yes the locals are a bit dry, with the exception of Sean Miller. I do hope that the staff at sonic will not change there goal of an after-hours environment to please the intolerance of uneducated clubbers. If I dare call people who have a problem with the environment to call them clubbers. |
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| 5hiftn6ears |
| quote: | Originally posted by bambamcdn
yes the locals are a bit dry |
ok...what city are you in?...and i dont think anyone has a problem with gay/straight crowds, rather having to look at a 100 dudes with there shirts off oiling each other up. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by bambamcdn
Reading this thread, makes me feel a little disappointed in the city of Toronto. What Boa did and what Sonic has continued is the very reason why we love house music. Do we forget where it came from? the black /gay, subculture of NYC and Chicago. These clubs were open late, booze not a factor, and MUSIC was what brought in the crowd. I feel that Sonic has been bringing in great talent; yes the locals are a bit dry, with the exception of Sean Miller. Remember Industry they did not have the same problems.
I cannot believe that people are still ty about gay/str8 people partying together.... With how progressive Toronto is and how evolved the gay scene is it is a tragedy that there is so much intolerance. As a gay man my self I am not into the washing machine either and I do keep my shirt on at the club. So enforcing that rule I am not opposed to. Maybe folks will spend less time in the gym and more time resting up for a 4am dj slot. For real. Sonic is an after hours experience, I go there because there is not booze, For those that must drink do it, get drunk go rest and then come out. I think alot of the party people need to grow up.
These clubs were open late, booze not a factor, and MUSIC was what brought in the crowd. I feel that Sonic has been bringing in great talent; yes the locals are a bit dry, with the exception of Sean Miller. I do hope that the staff at sonic will not change there goal of an after-hours environment to please the intolerance of uneducated clubbers. If I dare call people who have a problem with the environment to call them clubbers. |
Did you Deja-vu this post on purpose? |
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| fairy godfather |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontobarfly
you can't ship all the fags out and then complain that the place isn't as busy as it used to be :D
if the club's goal was to get rid of the carwash crew on saturdays by creating friday night then mission accomplished, but a big part of saturdays being full was the carwash crew
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Hey Craig...the reality is that the car wash crew have not been "shipped off" to Friday nights...they were not present at a lot of the parties on Saturday nights through the summer and fall. My experience is that they are more DJ loyal than Club loyal, and they only really made an appearance for the big name nights.
Saturday nights at Sonic have not been well attended for some time. I can think of several nights where the crowds were very small...Evil P, Danny Torrence, Sean Miller, Hector Romero....
I do think the club has an image problem with the straight club goers. The boys don't want to come because there are no girls to chase...I hear it week after week.
Most other clubs in town have a "shirts on" policy...I don't see anything wrong with that. If you really need to take your clothes off to enjoy a night of music and dancing...stay on Church Street!
Why do people think that enforcing a dress code equals discrimination or intolerance?
Why does the minority always have to have its' way these days? |
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| SuperJimbo |
LMFAO. Nice try. I don't think anyone here is suggesting that Sonic abandon the afterhours environment. Just because there are suggestions to open the club a bit earlier and move the headliner slot up a bit (as well as making other suggestions), doesn't mean the people posting here are intolerant or uneducated clubbers. I think that all I/we are suggesting is that if they want to thrive they need to adapt to an ever increasing competitive marketplace. TIL, Footwork, Gallery, The Drink, the CZ, 99 Sudbury, etc. -- these places are all competing with Sonic for many of the same people. Although the overall market for house music has probably grown a bit over the past couple of years, there is not an infinite customer base of people looking to shake-their-sh*t into the wee hours of the morning...
Anyway, I think I've said my piece and I appreciate everyone taking the time to hear me out. So, to summarize, here are a few suggestions that may or may not be worth considering (cause what the f*ck do I know?):
* Open the club at 12pm
* Bring in fresh, new openers with strong local followings
* Let openers play from 12pm to 2am
* Have headliners go on from 2am to 6am
* Let young local talent close the night out from 6am to 8am (or longer, if enough people demand it)
* Aggressively promote/communicate the new format
* Enforce a shirts-on on Saturdays policy
* Have a theme night once a month (or bi-monthly)
* Keep the f*ing lights down
* If possible, record live sets and post them on Sonic's website
* Add a new promoter or two to attract new people
* Sign co-marketing deals with a couple of smaller bars/clubs on college street (and let the young local talent that are opening or closing Sonic spin there)
* Make alcohol available (whenever possible)
* Add at least a small tent or cover to the smoking area (and a couple of heat lamps)
* Allow gum (it is getting in anyway)
* Sell fruit or energy bars
* Etc. |
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| EvilTree |
| ^You make it sound so reasonable ;) |
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| fairy godfather |
Andrew...
I hope the invoice for your consulting fee is in the mail!
Great summary...let's see what happens!
My bet....NOTHING! sadly... |
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| SuperJimbo |
My bet is that they WILL seriously consider these suggestions. Sincerely. At a minimum, I hope Jeff at least keeps me on his guestlist...LOL...
Can't wait until Saturday...Copeland and Lexicon Avenue...:whip: |
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| Jeff Button |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperJimbo
My bet is that they WILL seriously consider these suggestions. Sincerely. At a minimum, I hope Jeff at least keeps me on his guestlist...LOL...
Can't wait until Saturday...Copeland and Lexicon Avenue...:whip: |
Andrew, all of the points you made are reasonable - and many of them I agree with. The only thing we were butting heads on was the early opening (which you had suggested 11pm at first), and how I felt it wasn't justified without liquor.
Opening at midnight is reasonable, and so are the other suggestions you made in regards to the opening/closing slots.
I never felt like I was being 'defensive or closeminded' as you put it, rather just gave my opinion (which I am entitled to like anyone else, right?)..
You are not banned from the G-list ;) lol
see you saturday |
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| fairy godfather |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperJimbo
My bet is that they WILL seriously consider these suggestions. Sincerely. At a minimum, I hope Jeff at least keeps me on his guestlist...LOL...
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LOL...we gave up the guestlist thing months ago...just as easy to get there right before 2..pay the same price...and not have to be obliging to anyone!
And yes...we will see you on Saturday...should be a great night! |
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| torontobarfly |
| quote: | Originally posted by fairy godfather
Hey Craig...the reality is that the car wash crew have not been "shipped off" to Friday nights...they were not present at a lot of the parties on Saturday nights through the summer and fall. My experience is that they are more DJ loyal than Club loyal, and they only really made an appearance for the big name nights.
Saturday nights at Sonic have not been well attended for some time. I can think of several nights where the crowds were very small...Evil P, Danny Torrence, Sean Miller, Hector Romero....
I do think the club has an image problem with the straight club goers. The boys don't want to come because there are no girls to chase...I hear it week after week.
Most other clubs in town have a "shirts on" policy...I don't see anything wrong with that. If you really need to take your clothes off to enjoy a night of music and dancing...stay on Church Street!
Why do people think that enforcing a dress code equals discrimination or intolerance?
Why does the minority always have to have its' way these days? |
hi daniel,
about a third of my post was tongue in cheek, the other third sarcastic and the rest semi serious
i have no problem with a shirts-on policy...i think some of your questions should be directed to the other post that has a problem with a dress code....
but if the carwash crew have been gone for a while now, and word of mouth travels fast amongst partiers, why is the club still slow...kind of kills the arguement about the club being too gay doesn't it?
maybe what time the club opens, what they sell behind the bar and when the headliners come on are more of an issue here than the sexuality of it's customers |
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