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"Vote Hillary Clinton 2016" is dead. Long live "Vote Hillary Clinton 2016"! (pg. 4)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scratchula
Wait, who exactly are you going to build a wall around? And who is "we"? |
Are you really so ing stupid as to go point-by-point with someone who is clearly trolling you? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Nothing is ing rigged; everyone needs to stop using that term to describe this election. |
I was actually highlighting the irony; Trump keeps throwing that term around any chance he gets, yet CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS can't report on anything other than anthony weiner's ex wife's emails. The complete void of investigative journalism allows him to say such nonsense unchecked.
I found out yesterday that Trump has 75 law civil suits against him pending, one is a class action for Trump University with several hundred charges, the other is for repeatedly raping a minor, and he's got two pending FBI investigations (beating hillary by one, and now he's being charged criminally for Trump university.
Watching mainstream media, you might be aware of that Trump university, but probably won't have a clue about all the rest.
I honestly can't help but feel the media want a close race, when clearly it shouldn't be. |
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| Scratchula |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Are you really so ing stupid as to go point-by-point with someone who is clearly trolling you? |
Are you really so ing stupid to think I'm not trolling also? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
the other is for repeatedly raping a minor |
As much as I despise the man, I must say this whole thing seems a bit sketchy. All sources seem to be anonymous commenters and nothing solid has been presented. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scratchula
Are you really so ing stupid to think I'm not trolling also? |
That doesn't make your actions any smarter. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
As much as I despise the man, I must say this whole thing seems a bit sketchy. All sources seem to be anonymous commenters and nothing solid has been presented. |
There is a touch of sketch about it but it's not quite true that it's all anonymous; several confirmed unrelated witnesses have placed Trump there, right at the time this girl was there.
The people who are coming forward have been confirmed as having worked for Jeff Epstein as "event planner" (read: Madame). They're both stating their task was to procure women for these parties. They already testified against Epstein which led to him admitting to child molestation and sexual assault and being convicted as a sex offender.
The other thing is, Bill Clinton had been to Jeff's island, where wild parties were known to take place. He's admitted it but clearly distanced himself from Epstein the moment stories about Epstein started surfacing.
The really bizarre thing is that now, half a dozen people (with no axe to grind against Trump) have confirmed that Trump was on Epstein's jet going to the island on at least two (corroborated) and more likely four, occasions.....
.....but unlike everyone else who went on the jet, Trump isn't on any of the flight logs. That means they've either been doctored or there was a breach of FAA rules, just for Trump. The question is why?
Before this rape charge came to light, Vice did a great piece on Trump won't mention Bill Clinton going to the island. They said it doesn't make sense that Trump will throw anything at Bill but this is the easiest thing to nail him with (due to the flight logs), and Trump just won't go there.
Trump to this day, won't denounce Epstein - They're still friends and fact he won't go near the subject of the island at all.
Maybe it's all just circumstance but given you've got a dozen women coming forward, an Exwife who was paid off following a brutal rape, bunch more people saying he's like that and him on tape twice saying pretty dirty things, that's a whole of smoke for there to be no fire. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I honestly can't help but feel the media want a close race, when clearly it shouldn't be. |
You misspelled "the FBI". Time for all those people who said "Oh well, I don't have to vote for her" earlier in this thread to wake up and smell the mushroom cloud. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by soulstar606
yes, he will win California. |
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| wotyzoid |
| I wanted to quote in the other thread, now I can't. Balls. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
You say this, but that's what everybody said about Trump. This right wing movement in brasil worries me, it's like i even see some of my smarter relatives buying into it. |
Sorry it took me this long to reply, but I've been thinking about it for a while.
The thing is, this is not the first time a deranged nominee comes from the Republican party - Barry Goldwater was just mental (1189 psychiatrists actually said that for Fact magazine, which led to Goldwater suing the magazine and winning, reason no sane MD says it about Trump now), the anti-Goldwater adverts (such as Daisy Girl) were a lot like the ones you see against Trump now, and a riven Republican party lost bigly. Seriously, they only got 6 states, which I'm sure is the textbook definition of a landslide victory.
A Bolsonaro presidency, however, would be completely novel as far as I can tell. A reactionary leader here usually takes the helm by sheer force - from that one time the marshals took the throne (and turned the country into republic) to 1964.
Besides, a quick look into his decisions as a politicians would land him in trouble for praising free market yet voting time and again against it. So, yeah, I think a Trump presidency is much more likely than a Bolsonaro presidency.
But then, I'm a linguist, not a political scientist. Linguists are terrible at politics :p |
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| Vector A |
A lot of Clinton's ads are rather different from what one usually sees, actually, in that they do little more than play footage of Trump, lol. I liked what George R.R. Martin said about it:
| quote: | The Trump commercials are all fairly standard political attack ads. You've seen a thousand like them. Find some bad pictures of the opponent, in this case Hillary, pictures that make them look ugly or angry or crazed (easily done, there are thousands of unflattering pictures of any public figure floating around these days). If they are not bad enough, put them up in black & white, which always seems to make them worse. Juxtapose them with negative imagery, maybe some out of context headlines. Use a faceless narrator's voice over the pictures telling us that the candidate is corrupt or a liar or "too extreme." The latest Trump ad manages to add Anthony Weiner, who is called "Pervert Anthony Weiner." The blatant name-calling -- flinging around words like 'pervert' and 'crooked' -- is not something we have often seen before in American politics, unless you go back to the 18th and 19th centuries; that's Trump's own original ugly contribution to lowering the tenor of political discourse. The rest, however, is Attack Ad 101.
...Clinton's ads are something else. Very different, and -- to my mind -- much more truthful. The star of all the Clinton ads in Donald J. Trump. There are no deliberately unflattering photographs, however. Nothing in black and white. Just video clips, full color, professional footage from news cameras at his rallies, interviews, television appearances. There's no name-calling either. Clinton doesn't need to label Trump as "crooked" or "a liar" or link him with "perverts." Clinton's ads just show Trump being Trump.
...No one has to accuse Trump of anything, he has laid it all out there in public for the world to see.
Yes, he mocked a disabled reporter. There he is, doing it.
Yes, he told Billy Bush he liked to kiss women without their consent and grab them by their pussies. There he is, boasting about it. When you're a star, you can do anything.
No need to accuse Trump of going into the dressing rooms of Miss Universe and Miss Teen USA pagaents when the contestants were changing so he could see them naked. There's Trump himself, telling Howard Stern about it.
Yes, he said women should be punished for having abortions. There he is, telling Chris Matthews. His own words, his own face.
Yes, he said he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. Here, see the clip.
Yes, he's in favor of Japan and Saudi Arabia and South Korea having nukes, here's the clip where he says so.
And on and on and on and on. The Gold Star family, the bad hombres, Judge Curiel, the Miss Universe contestant... his own speeches, his own tweets, his own words. |
http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/game...twitter_vulture |
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| Vector A |
Interesting numbers coming out of Florida. Apparently new registrations for Hispanic voters are massive there, higher than expected:
| quote: | Florida's 2016 election is shaping up to be a watershed moment for Hispanic voter impact.
A dramatic surge in recent months by Hispanic voters is becoming daily more evident in official early voting data, according to analysis by University of Florida political scientist Daniel Smith.
"It very well could be the Hispanic vote that saves Hillary Clinton in Florida," said Smith, who tracks the state's voting patterns on his blog, electionsmith.com.
"It's just been eye-popping the turnout by Hispanics," he added, citing data from early in person voting and voting by mail in Florida, the largest swing state which pundits say is a must-win for Republican Party candidate Donald Trump to have any chance of being elected president.
Polls currently show the race to be statistically tied.
The large turnout comes on the back of record voter registration by Hispanics in Florida this year. Smith's analysis found that nearly 23 percent of the 820,000 voters who registered this year in Florida describe themselves as Hispanic. While ethnicity is optional on voter forms, the number is way over the 16 per cent Latino share of the state's population. New white voters represented 52 percent of new voters, despite accounting for 68 percent of the voting population.
As of Oct 1 Hispanics made up 15.5 percent of registered Florida voters, up from 13.5 percent in 2012. That does not include about 50,000 voters who registered late and about whom data is not available. Smith estimated that there now 200,000 more Hispanic voters registered than in 2012. In 2012 Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney in Florida by only 74,000 votes.
Of the 186,000 newly registered Hispanic voters, Smith said 42 percent are Democrats and only 15 percent registered Republican. Another 42 percent did not register a party affiliation. Previously Republicans represented 26 percent of Hispanic voters in Florida.
"That's a historic shift," said Smith. |
http://www.univision.com/univision-...tory-in-florida
How awesome would it be if Trump got bulldozed by Hispanic and female voters?
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