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| Member of X |
Of course..... that's what I meant when I said I have been starting to worry about him.
Kevin Brown as the closer. lol
He has the mentality and it wouldn't strain his back so much. He has the stuff too. |
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| Highmay |
| kevin brown as the closer for the yankees would make the yanks look so desperate...forget that option...im sure they have enough faith in the greatest closer of all time to give him space to blow about 5 or 6 more saves before management should really start to worry... |
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| Member of X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Highmay
kevin brown as the closer for the yankees would make the yanks look so desperate...forget that option...im sure they have enough faith in the greatest closer of all time to give him space to blow about 5 or 6 more saves before management should really start to worry... |
I agree. I'm only thinking desperate situations if it came down to it. I'm not that serious although it worked wonders for John Smoltz. |
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| trunks1022 |
why not use tom gordon against the red sox? he used to close.
obviously mo would be more effective if teams seem him only so often. save him til the end of the season, then the red sox won't be so comfortable. during his heyday during the late 90s, wasn't his fastball regularly above 95 mph? |
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| Tranz |
| watching grass grow>baseball :haha: |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranz
watching grass grow>baseball :haha: |
is there any way we can get a mod to delete this useless post :wtf: |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
why not use tom gordon against the red sox? he used to close.
obviously mo would be more effective if teams seem him only so often. save him til the end of the season, then the red sox won't be so comfortable. during his heyday during the late 90s, wasn't his fastball regularly above 95 mph? |
That's what I've been thinking. Probably the best option. Bring in Mariano every now and then. I'd wait to see how he fares against them in the next series though before using that option. |
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| kid nyce |
i'd like to see stanton solidify his control and become the john franco for the yanks. I think MO/Gordon combo is completely overrated. When I played baseball I faced pitchers that threw pretty hard, you can tell when a pitcher who throws hard is hittable or not. The MO/Gordon deliver is almost the same relative to release points. Gordon's fastball is flat, usually pitchers are taught to throw with a downward motion. So over hand release points at the same velocity just lower at the knees. Any flat fastball can be hit by anyone.
MO's motiff is gone. He was mr UP and IN, ever since he started dazzling with the cutter he has gone to . In his first 4 seasons with the yanks, he only threw a change up, 2 seam, and 4 seam. The 4 seam was his rising fastball and his 2 seam was his inside pitch. Everything else would be 4 seam away, change up, 4 seam away, change up, 2 seam inside, change up away, 4 seam up and in. Now that he has this so-called cutter he's lost alot of velocity from his pitch and simply doesn't have control. When a pitcher learns a new pitch, he learns to compensate the location for the movement. "I can throw this anywhere as long as it moves/bites" Those pitches usually belong to starters who have an aresnal of pitches. I don't think a closer should have more than 3 pitches.
One successful formula the yankees had was Nelson/Rivera - now we are talking Nelson who will get you through 7th/8th and Rivera to close. Nelson for the obvious reason was affective, and Rivera didn't have to throw anything that cut/moved/bite. He just brought heat.
Now with Gordon/Rivera, both throw heat, both don't throw with movement, it's similar just Gordon is flat and Rivera doesn't have the control he had like before (because of his new pitch selection)
It's like the roles have been reversed, Rivera throwing with movement and Gordon flat as a tire. This combo doesn't work. You work Stanton so his location and control is on point, up his pitch count and let him work the middle relief (ala mendoza) then you bring the heat (rivera) I say Gordon should go, he doesn't attribute anything unique to the Yankee's Pen. He's flat, he throws hard, and lacks control of his strike out pitches. |
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| Shamez214 |
| Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! You still have Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Hideki Matsui, Randy Johnson, Jason Giambi... I think you'll be fine if Mariano blows a few saves against the Red Sox here and there. Such spoiled bitches you guys are. :wtf: :stongue: |
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah! You still have Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Hideki Matsui, Randy Johnson, Jason Giambi... I think you'll be fine if Mariano blows a few saves against the Red Sox here and there. Such spoiled bitches you guys are. :wtf: :stongue: |
Stop being bitter at the fact that the mets haven't placed a tally mark in the W column yet. If you ain't gonna contribute to the facts then quit yo bitchin and put on your damn cheerleading outfit |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
Stop being bitter at the fact that the mets haven't placed a tally mark in the W column yet. If you ain't gonna contribute to the facts then quit yo bitchin and put on your damn cheerleading outfit |
in da pooper |
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