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Please post a sample of a bad Tiesto mix (pg. 18)
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Ishkur
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're ing white, Ishkur. You're Canadian. Stop saying "cracker" as if you have some superior sense of rhythm.


I call everyone cracker, honky. I'm the most middle class silver spoon whitebread dip I know.

Now. Seriously. Settle down, and watch how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Ishkur
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Originally posted by Pio
He has enough tracks to do this. Didn't you see the tracklist I posted? That's not your typical Tiësto set, not even from the last two months.


Uh huh. But the bomb will drop when I see his tracklist from the following weekend.

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Originally posted by Pio
They've all made millions in America.


I could go out and ask 1000 Americans who he is. I will receive blank stares from 999 of them. Guaranteed.

Neither the nightly news, nor the newspapers, nor the radio, nor the talk shows, nor television in general....nothing. A good comment was made about 15 years ago, stating that you haven't really made it big in the American music industry until Weird Al does a parody.

There is no media presence whatsoever on Tiesto other than scene-devoted rags. He is water underneath the bridge of the mainstream media.


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Originally posted by Pio
Their videos might not be playing in American MTV, but read above. America is still a goldmine for the trance cracker exploiters.


They have no idea how far they have to go. Drop in the bucket. No one here has heard of them. No one.

Hell, I just spent the past two days giving a crash-course tutorial on trance music to a promoter friend in Dallas who knew nothing about european DJs and music.

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Originally posted by Pio
The instruments are a product of a particular culture. Your theory would be laughed at by any respectable musicologist and historian in academia.


Prove it.

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Originally posted by Pio
I'm not saying that Bangalter was reaching into his heritage at all. But the outcome of what he produced in the process of "recrafting American funk music in his own style" had a natural French essence,


No it didn't.

How much American funk music have you actually listened to?

You want the source of French House? Jazz Crusaders - Cold Beans and Rice. 1962 4-to-the-floor house.

You know how they got that sound? Manually. The drummer was placed in a padded elevator to get a filtered thump to his percussion.

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Originally posted by Pio
But I don't pretend it is, that's what matters to me.


Yes, we've already covered that part--you are among the privileged exceptions.

But the music doesn't think like you. The DJs don't think like you. And certainly the trancecrackers don't.

So what must be done with them? You tell me.
miamitranceman
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Originally posted by Clovis86
Wow a minute transition WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE!!!!


OMG BACKSPIN !!!1111


OH BASS CUT!!!111



Do you know someone named James Zabiela?

ing hell man you have low standards....



My whole point is many people assume he just stands there and spins records. This set proves otherwise.


Oh and James Zabiela is not a trance DJ.
miamitranceman
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Originally posted by Ishkur



But it pretends its not, and that's what's so damn offensive about it.

Own up to your stupid shortcomings, trancecrackers. It's the only way.




How do you know what Dutch trance is pretending to do or not? Do you have some mental connection with Dutch trance? Do you channel the spirit of Dutch trance and discover its inner thoughts and feelings? That's AMAZING! I wish I had the kind of connection with Dutch trance to make such a comment as you have. Long live Dutch trance!
Aiwendil
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Originally posted by miamitranceman
How do you know what Dutch trance is pretending to do or not? Do you have some mental connection with Dutch trance? Do you channel the spirit of Dutch trance and discover its inner thoughts and feelings? That's AMAZING! I wish I had the kind of connection with Dutch trance to make such a comment as you have. Long live Dutch trance!


You don't read too well do you.
Clovis86
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Originally posted by miamitranceman
My whole point is many people assume he just stands there and spins records. This set proves otherwise.


Oh and James Zabiela is not a trance DJ.



Tiesto is a DJ. Plain and simple.
Clovis86
quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
My whole point is many people assume he just stands there and spins records. This set proves otherwise.


Oh and James Zabiela is not a trance DJ.



Tiesto is a DJ. Plain and simple.
Dj_Day-V
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Tiesto is a DJ. Plain and simple.


I don't get it. You listen to gay music. So ? You don't see me crying about that :o
Toufas
quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
My whole point is many people assume he just stands there and spins records. This set proves otherwise.


Oh and James Zabiela is not a trance DJ.

and thats not a trance set then :)
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by Ishkur
Hey, If these trance DJs are such great crowd readers, how come none of them have been able to "conquer" America? Each one of them has come forth embarking on a North American tour saying they will be the one to finall break through, and each of them in turn--Oakie, Pvd, Tiesto, they all fall flat. Why is that? ....why can't they figure out America if they're supposed to be these genius crowd readers? Can't they figure out what the American people want?

You are free to think up any reason you want, but here's my theory: America has a much much MUCH lower tolerance for bull than Europe. They do not put up with much; euro disney circus sideshows from Europe are a ing joke to the US music industry. They do not suffer fools, twits, or ego-driven dutchtards. Either bring something of actual substance to the table, or off.



Dutch DJ's are great crowd readers (but not only the Dutch), probably because they are able to play for huge crowds. Love Parade, Members of Mayday, Sensation, Mysteryland, Dance Valley, Tiesto In Concert, Trance Energy, Innercity. We are not talking about playing for 10.000 people, but many, many more.

Why isn't Robbie Williams a superstar in the US? Why do many rock groups come to Europe in the summer to play at the festivals like Werchter, Rock am Ring, Pinkpop, Roskilde.
It is not that US stadiums aren't big enough, they even are bigger. Why 1000's of people watch live baseball, football, basketball games and many more do visit the Indy500?

So there probably is another reason. It took those DJ's many years to get known by huge crowds, why should we expect this would happen much faster in the US?

Give me some names of trance/techno tracks which reached the top of the popcharts in the US. Trance is more accepted by a large crowd in Europe and that is why these DJ's are so succesfull. Trance is also played at the national radio stations, so it reaches huge crowds. This way a music style will be accepted easier.

By the way, Tiesto is playing a 6 hours set in Amsterdam this evening starting at 22:00. You can listen and see it at his site. (If the newspaper was correct.)

Dj_Day-V
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Originally posted by Trance-MB
By the way, Tiesto is playing a 6 hours set in Amsterdam this evening starting at 22:00. You can listen and see it at his site. (If the newspaper was correct.)


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Numidia
Ishkur: You are a lame EDM knockoff of Ed the Sock (Sorry, I think only Canadians will know who that is)
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