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It is 2009 People... Isn't everybody tired of this minimal Bull***t by Now??? (pg. 7)
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
What it comes down to is a lack of passion for things in general, a greater symptom of modern society. |
I don't know that people don't have passion, I just think that most people's energy is being dispersed among more things than ever before. There's so much information and so many diversions to catch our attention and break our concentration. Instead of doing one thing really well we're dilettantes at thirty things. |
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| enydo |
| I think that has some to do with it as well. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I don't know that people don't have passion, I just think that most people's energy is being dispersed among more things than ever before. There's so much information and so many diversions to catch our attention and break our concentration. Instead of doing one thing really well we're dilettantes at thirty things. |
Well thats still a breakdown in passion for things.
If you REALLY care about something you're going to invest your fullest into it. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I don't know that people don't have passion, I just think that most people's energy is being dispersed among more things than ever before. There's so much information and so many diversions to catch our attention and break our concentration. Instead of doing one thing really well we're dilettantes at thirty things. |
Jack of all trades, master of none. |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| you can all thank beatport nepotism for its proliferation. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
you can all thank beatport nepotism for its proliferation. |
Beatport, while certainly a factor in this "problem", is by no means the go-to when looking for something to blame here. Certainly not the most deciding factor in instances such as these. |
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| palm |
| time is also a problem. technology are going so fast its hard to keep up for many so theyr wasting all their time trying learning new stuff and educate themself instead use what they know to make something. its really not that many things needed to make a cool track, but somehow everyone needs to have the best studios, with all the most awesome computers, VSTs, hardware synths that they never get time to learn fully. combining all this with a 10 hour daytimejob theres not much time left. i burn for music but id be living on the street if id go all the way, so i gotta have a job, and that job takes all my time. id get an easier/less hours/less payd job if living wasnt so damn expensive. the money-consumption i have now compared to 5-6 years ago is mental, mostly beacuse of a central apartment i bought compare to then when i rented a ty house with 4 others in a city while studying. even with studying + parttime job i had more time for music, was djeing at the time. i miss that. lol. |
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| ponsshin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Light The Fuse
i think its better that any tom dick or even harry can sit in front of a craked version of abletr0nz and write a tune (its be a pc tho - farken mac cracks are terrible - but i digest...)
- joe bloggs is a natural musician and like most musicians joe is broke. joe however does have a dodgy little pc and some cracked software and creates a halfway decent track...joe gets picked up by a record label and his tune sells well...he even gets real lucky and is put onto a compilation or 2..he gets paid a few grand for being on in search of sunrise 15 and can now set up a better studio..with better equipment he is able to create better sounds...however..without that initial access to cheaper musical tools this never would have happened. my 2c |
That's never gonna happen and as Mr. JiveBoJingles said: gear isn't that expensive. I'm poor as and I still manage to have a high end computer, a hardware synth, a mixer and a couple of turntables (which I intend to let go of). |
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| ponsshin |
| quote: | Originally posted by sljiva
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You don't like Warp Records, I do. End of argument;) . |
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| sljiva |
| quote: | Originally posted by ponsshin
You don't like Warp Records, I do. End of argument;) . |
So we both agree that they went to , it just happens that you like that and I don't.
Just kidding. End of argument. |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Beatport, while certainly a factor in this "problem", is by no means the go-to when looking for something to blame here. Certainly not the most deciding factor in instances such as these. |
nowhere in my comment did i say it was either the "go-to" or "most deciding factor". for the sake of argument though, i'll play devils advocate and say that you are wrong. please explain to me what is the 'go-to' and 'most deciding' factor here. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by sljiva
I'm criticizing Warp because they stopped releasing good and innovative music, not because they turned away from IDM (if that's what you're implying)... |
I honestly don't know that much about Warp, but I think it's a bit naive to expect that an artist or a collective (a label) could stay relevant and innovative for such a long period of time. Even the most reputable names usually peak somewhere, and then a) get out of the business until it's too late b) stay there and continue doing what made them famous, just with lesser and lesser impact c) try to reinvent, reestablish themselves, and usually fail at that.
If I had to name one label that is constantly releasing forward thinking stuff right now, it would probably be Hyperdub, and that's not just because I like what they're doing. I may be wrong, but I think it's becoming a general consensus as well. Warp's heyday was in the (early) 90s, and it will stay linked with that era forever.
Everything has its time, it's that simple. And that is also an answer to the OP (heh). It's pointless to wail; the fad will pass, and if you don't like it, just stay away from it (as people have already said). |
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