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World Cup 2010 (pg. 17)
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| Ali Mahmud |
Does anybody know if they called it offsides or a foul.
If it was offsides, noway.
Foul maybe, the us guy behind the defender slid and kind of took out the defender from preventing edu from scoring. |
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| Ali Mahmud |
i looked at it again, they got robbed.
Still can't believe england couldn't beat algeria. They look horrible. Rooney can't compete on the international stage. Actually he rarely does well in the big games. |
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| DJ Eco |
I absolutely love watching the English team tank right now.. I normally really like the players, their style of soccer, and the team itself, but their comments pre-Cup about "being in an easy group" have me enjoying these past two games so so so much, almost too much...
That, and the absurd amount of AMERICANS cheering for them... |
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| ravracer16 |
It def was not offside. I've been looking at the replay over and over again on youtube. SOmeone on Foxsoccer's blog mentioned that it was Carlos Bocanegra that probably the foul was called on. It seems towards the end of the replay as he is falling down he brings his man down along with him.
But that's total BS. Before that he even happened he was being dry humped by his defender. Also heard this is not the first time this ref has made questionable calls.
We need a win next Wednesday. That's it. Findley will be suspended which is great news. Interesting where they will play Dempsey. |
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| osterzone |
One of the less publicized problems of the World Cup is that there is a ton of betting going on in a lot of the world's countries. And when a bunch of those countries involved are uncivilized, third-world nations with failed governments, somewhere along the line someone has to get ed.
There's no way to prove that the ref today fixed the game, but it's well known that Mali is an extremely poor, derelict excuse of a nation. Was the guy paid off? Again you can't tell, but they have a pretty ed up government, so the notion of a fixed game and some money exchanging hands is definitely a possibility.
Another thing is that all sports need to start allowing full instant replay to overturn blown calls, even if it's after the game and it changes the result. The technology is clearly there and it's asinine that were not using it.
Too many of sports' governing bodies and commissioners cite the game's integrity as a reason not to do use full instant replay. But they're ignoring that nearly all athletes use PEDs, so who cares about integrity anymore? |
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| DJ Eco |
| Gotta agree with you on this one... At times, this game looked terribly and obviously fixed... The no-calls, the anti-U.S.A. calls, the robbery of our game-winning goal, and then to add insult to injury, he ended the game early (2 minutes of the 3 minute stoppage time was for the injured player and substitute, and the ref stopped the game after 3 minutes 20 seconds).. |
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| edubbz |
in the game of soccer, there will never be replay footage to be used to overturn a call. the coach is kept in a box on the sideline, theres noway he would be able to make a call from afar. besides the game is continuous; if replay footage is to even be considered, do you know the amount of time it would have to be compensated for in stoppage time?
it'll NEVER happen! |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eco
Gotta agree with you on this one... At times, this game looked terribly and obviously fixed... The no-calls, the anti-U.S.A. calls, the robbery of our game-winning goal, and then to add insult to injury, he ended the game early (2 minutes of the 3 minute stoppage time was for the injured player and substitute, and the ref stopped the game after 3 minutes 20 seconds).. |
The only way to prove that it was a fix is if something comes out behind the scenes.
But then again the party in question is Mali, the same country where 40% of the people don't have clean drinking water and another 40% can't read.
So the chances of them or someone from there spilling the beans on a game fix is about the same odds of Pakistan telling you where Bin Laden is if you asked them... |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by edubbz
in the game of soccer, there will never be replay footage to be used to overturn a call. the coach is kept in a box on the sideline, theres noway he would be able to make a call from afar. besides the game is continuous; if replay footage is to even be considered, do you know the amount of time it would have to be compensated for in stoppage time?
it'll NEVER happen! |
I'm not saying to take the refs off the field...just make every call reviewable and allow them to be overturned.
Also who cares if stoppage time is a few more minutes? That can be resolved easily: tell the refs to not blow the whistle every time someone dives... |
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| DJ Eco |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
The only way to prove that it was a fix is if something comes out behind the scenes.
But then again the party in question is Mali, the same country where 40% of the people don't have clean drinking water and another 40% can't read. |
You're seeing way too far into this... Almost everyone has his price, and based on his performance, there's a possibility this guy was bought, end of story.
You're giving us a sociological Dan Brown-esque study of a referee's involvement in some underground Mali gambling ring, take it down a notch haha.. |
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| LAdazeNYnights |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
Another thing is that all sports need to start allowing full instant replay to overturn blown calls, even if it's after the game and it changes the result. The technology is clearly there and it's asinine that were not using it.
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No. Soccer doesn't lend itself to instant replay - and the humanity of a referee is part of the humanity of the game. It's a multi-dimensional game - I'm not saying I agree with the referee's call earlier today to deny the goal (in fact, it was awful) but if you instate replay in soccer, even just for controversial goals or non-goals like that I think it'd be futile. You could watch a play like that and say "well that's a foul on the defending team, and there's another, and the ball wasn't played in an offside position, but look there- that's a potential foul on the attacking squad and as such the call was justified".
Perhaps the referee noted that a certain US player had been playing aggressively or with some malicious intent on an earlier recent play but let them play on for the games sake - but keeping it in the back of his head to look for something similar. And then maybe he saw something similar and didn't want to continue to let it slide. I think that's a very reasonable aspect of the sport - I was furious at Klose's early second yellow card in the Germany game, as the tackle didn't seem to merit it at all. But a few minutes prior Klose had scored a goal well after the whistle from an offside position and the commentator made note of the fact that Klose's brazenness in that instance likely played a role in the referees decision making process.
Anyway, it's just part of the game. It always has been. |
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| JPlay |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eco
Don't be so sure.. They are all playing a very similar attacking style... Expectations during this world cup are all going out the window haha.. |
we'll see ;) |
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