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| Eddie N MIAMI |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
speaking of the hurricanes ...
give it up for their green uniforms this saturday with the twin hurricane flags on their helmets ...
although i still hate it ..
i am a traditionalist, and still go for the orange and green with the big U on their helmets . |
yeah that was their jersey back in the 60s George Mira days
I still like the unis we wore in the 80s and 90s |
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| jonze234 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
speaking of the hurricanes ...
give it up for their green uniforms this saturday with the twin hurricane flags on their helmets ...
although i still hate it ..
i am a traditionalist, and still go for the orange and green with the big U on their helmets . |
i had no idea who that was playing. the uniforms threw me off big time. i flipped past the game like three times before i realized who it was. |
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| jonze234 |
Updated BCS Bowl Predictions on cbssportsline.com
Jan. 4 Rose Pasadena, Calif. Southern California vs. Texas
Jan. 3 Orange Miami, Fla. Notre Dame vs. Virginia Tech
Jan. 2 Sugar Atlanta, Ga. West Virginia vs. Alabama
Jan. 2 Fiesta Tempe, Ariz. UCLA vs. Penn State
im not sure how they figure out the at-large bids. |
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| CraveTheRave |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonze234
Updated BCS Bowl Predictions on cbssportsline.com
Jan. 4 Rose Pasadena, Calif. Southern California vs. Texas
Jan. 3 Orange Miami, Fla. Notre Dame vs. Virginia Tech
Jan. 2 Sugar Atlanta, Ga. West Virginia vs. Alabama
Jan. 2 Fiesta Tempe, Ariz. UCLA vs. Penn State
im not sure how they figure out the at-large bids. |
Well we're not going to the SEC title game but at least we ended Georgia's bid on Saturday :D
Those bowl predictions aren't bad, but I am still hoping for ND Vs Penn State... that would be a game for the ages. And then UCLA/Va Tech wouldn't be a bad game. But I don't think ND would go to the Fiesta to play Penn St. If those bowl predictions hold up, the Fiesta Bowl would be a very cool variation of the traditional Rose Bowl.
At-large bids are awarded to teams in BCS conferences who qualify for a BCS bid ie. 9 wins. or if non-bcs, then have to finish in BCS top 6 ie. Utah last year. That's why BCS wants ND to run the table and finish with 9 wins. |
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| Mebot |
Another rant about the BCS from Gene Wojciechowski
link here
| quote: | Blow it up.
Get the new James Bond to configure the C-4. Hire the Navy SEALS to attach the detonator. I don't care if you have to swipe Count Dooku's lightsaber to do the deed, but it's time for the Bowl Championship Series to dictate its last will and testament.
Mack Brown is one of those who's been confounded by the BCS.
The BCS means well. All it really wants to do is arrange a No. 1 vs. No. 2 national championship game. But how can you trust a "system" that does more makeovers than the Queer Eye guys? Hardly a year goes by that the BCS doesn't go under the knife for a nip and tuck.
This season, it was the introduction of the 114-member Harris Interactive College Football Poll and the departure of the Associated Press poll. Before that, the lineup of computer rankings was reduced. Before that, the number of components used in the overall rankings system was trimmed. Before that, formulas were adjusted.
It's always something. Strength of schedule is in. Strength of schedule is out. Quality wins are in. Quality wins are out. Congress barks about antitrust legislation. The BCS magically creates new opportunities for lesser conferences.
I'd rather clean Bevo's stall after the big lug scarfs a 10-pack of White Castle Slyders than endure another annual controversy, another cluster of inevitable BCS fixes. The BCS doesn't set the postseason agenda, it reacts to it. Every season a flaw is exposed, followed months later by another bandage applied by the BCS administrators.
For example, the new Harris Poll has been a huge success, especially if you don't count the three weeks when not all the voters voted (one member has since been dumped). And how can you not respect a poll where one of the voting members is a territory manager for Blue Bell Creameries? Nothing says college football like Moo-llenium Crunch ice cream.
The USA Today coaches poll has its own issues, beginning with its credibility. I'll bet you Frank Beamer's annuity fund that not all 62 members of that poll fill out their own ballots. If they do, at least a few of them depend on the advice of a sports information director or director of football operations. And let's not even pretend that coaches don't occasionally vote in ways that will best serve their program's interests.
The BCS needs to swim with the fishes. It needs to visit Jimmy Hoffa. Problem is, the university presidents refuse to hand the BCS a pair of cement shoes. Instead, we're apparently stuck with this living, breathing nightmare through the 2009 season.
A playoff, which just happens to determine 88 championships in other NCAA sports -- including non-Division-IA football -- is a presidential no-no for now. You've heard the usual reasons: It would harm the bowls, require too many games, interfere with exam schedules.
Meanwhile, these same presidents OK a 12th regular-season game and lengthen the postseason (next season's BCS Championship will be played Jan. 8, 2007).
So how about the next best thing? How about the only thing that makes sense, short of a 16-, eight- or even four-team playoff?
How about the first-ever BCS Selection Committee? ... The concept makes sense on so many levels, which is probably why the BCS has ignored it.
How about the first-ever BCS Selection Committee?
This isn't a new idea. Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese, a former BCS coordinator, is a selection committee advocate. So is Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson, who, like Tranghese, served on the NCAA Men's Basketball Selection Committee in years past. The concept makes sense on so many levels, which is probably why the BCS has ignored it.
"Is there a process that has more credibility than the men's basketball committee?" Thompson asks.
Nope. You can argue with some of the committee's past decisions, but you can't argue with the integrity of the process to reach those decisions. That's what the BCS doesn't understand. It has a credibility problem, made more obvious by the annual repairs.
The men's basketball committee has 10 members. The BCS Selection Committee would have 25. The men's basketball committee seeds 65 teams and chooses 34 at-large teams. The BCS Selection Committee would, at the very least, choose the two teams to play in the BCS Championship. The men's basketball committee meets about six times a year, devotes countless man hours to research and appraisal, and spends its final weekend hunkered down in a Kansas City hotel debating the merits of the assorted team candidates. The BCS Selection Committee would adhere to those same principles.
"I think it's applicable," said a member of the present basketball committee, on condition of anonymity. "Look at all the factors that our committee uses, and I think they're all relevant [to football] … I think it could be just as valid as using the existing group of people we're using."
When Thompson was a member of the hoops committee, he spent between 90 minutes to two hours a night during much of the season watching games and studying material on the 80 or so teams most likely to be considered for March Madness. Do you think the Harris voters or the coaches are making the same sort of time commitment to football? Former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer would be on my committee. So would former Northwestern athletic director Rick Taylor, soon-to-be-former Stanford AD Ted Leland, and former ACC commissioner, Notre Dame AD and NCAA president Gene Corrigan. I'd also contact former Georgia coach and AD Vince Dooley, former Ole Miss coach David Cutcliffe, former Miami coach Jimmy Johnson, former USC and UNLV coach John Robinson, former North Carolina State coach Dick Sheridan and former NFL star Kellen Winslow.
I'd keep the polls, but use them the same way the basketball committee does: as a tool, but not as two-thirds of the selection equation, as the BCS now does. I'd use the computer rankings as sort of a football RPI. I'd insist on 25 committee members as opposed to the NCAA's 10 -- fewer complaints of favoritism that way. I'd have my committee chairman conduct a post-selection TV and teleconference, explaining exactly why the committee did what it did.
My committee doesn't solve the dilemma of three or more undefeated teams. Only a playoff can do that. But I'm guessing Auburn's Tommy Tuberville, whose unbeaten Tigers were left out of the 2004 BCS title mix, could live with the decision of a committee composed of athletics professionals easier than he could the verdict from the Blue Bell guy, six computer wizards and 62 coaches who might or might not actually have seen Auburn play. The same goes for USC's Pete Carroll in 2003 and Oregon's Mike Bellotti in 2001.
My sympathies to BCS coordinator (and Big 12 commissioner) Kevin Weiberg if USC, Texas, Virginia Tech and Alabama finish the regular season without a loss. Not even the new Bond can save him then.
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This will be a tough week for Virginia Tech against #5 Miami. This will be the only game of the undefeateds to watch as I'm sure all the rest of them (UCLA, USC, Texas and Alabama) will win. If Tech wins, I'm pretty sure we'll clinch the ACC title and go undefeated into a BCS Bowl game. Which one will depend if Texas or USC loses (which USC will against UCLA or Cal).
It's college gameday again in Blacksburg, so be sure to look for me behind Lee Kirk and Mark.:p |
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| LeopoldStotch |
as much as i like the U (miami), i would want v tech to go undefeated this season, along with texas and ucla ( they will beat usc) and alabama winning the sec championship ..
then, this will be smeared all over the bcs's faces, and they have to decide what to do, especially with defending national champs with only 1 loss, yet still ranked way higher than other 1 loss teams ...
i hate the bcs .. i want it to die !!!
p.s. .. i will look for you .. :thepirate :nervous: ..
remember to blatantly promote TA .. wear a big shirt with big letters saying 'FTW" or "WTF" or "stfu" or "p00pers3x" ... hahhahahahaa or a big sign that says :
"JOSH4 <3 FLOORFILLER" ...
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
then, this will be smeared all over the bcs's faces, and they have to decide what to do, especially with defending national champs with only 1 loss, yet still ranked way higher than other 1 loss teams ... |
Yeah like that article I posted above, it says each year the BCS gets tweaked a little bit because things like this happen. It's in a perpetual state of tweakness, there's always something every year that leaves people confused and mad
| quote: | remember to blatantly promote TA .. wear a big shirt with big letters saying 'FTW" or "WTF" or "stfu" or "p00pers3x" ... hahhahahahaa or a big sign that says :
"JOSH4 <3 FLOORFILLER" ...
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Sure thing. I'm thinking about making a huge sign that says NOOBLOL on it. :p |
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| Eddie N MIAMI |
| yeah so Im pumped for this weekends game even though I might not see it, the Canes have notin to lose , if we lose o well notin new against Tech lately,Kyle Wright will have to have the best game of his career and the recievers need to step it up, both defences are strong, lets see which QB wins it. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
Yeah like that article I posted above, it says each year the BCS gets tweaked a little bit because things like this happen. It's in a perpetual state of tweakness, there's always something every year that leaves people confused and mad
Sure thing. I'm thinking about making a huge sign that says NOOBLOL on it. :p |
bring a sign with the O RLY owl on it :toothless |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
bring a sign with the O RLY owl on it :toothless |
perfection!
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"CARL COX ATE DAVE DRESDEN!!"
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| Mebot |
I was thinking about making a CORSO IS A NOOBLOL sign, but I dunno. I'll be on campus tomorrow morning for the airing of Cold Pizza.
This game has got me nervous. It's going to be dominated by defense and special teams. Devin Hester is the main threat VT has to look out for, but Miami's overall defense is something to worry about as well. |
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| CraveTheRave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
I was thinking about making a CORSO IS A NOOBLOL sign, but I dunno. I'll be on campus tomorrow morning for the airing of Cold Pizza.
This game has got me nervous. It's going to be dominated by defense and special teams. Devin Hester is the main threat VT has to look out for, but Miami's overall defense is something to worry about as well. |
I don't think Va.Tech has to worry about special teams, if there is one thing they dominate, it is that. This will be a great game and I think VT will pull it off by 3 or 4 only. Thank god we have the Score up here to show this game, can't count on loser TSN to show anything good. God, I need an illegal dish for ESPN. |
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