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Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court (pg. 26)
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
There is more to it then just the high from the food but its definately a factor in why some obese people get so large. There can be many psychological factors that someone goes through and they turn to food because it makes them feel good....some people turn to working out when they feel bad...others turn to alcohol...and others turn to food.
I hate it when people say just put down the cheeseburger because its not that simple sometimes....for some yes it is...but unless you know what is going on in that person's head you can't possibly understand how hard it might be.
Its like that friend who can never go and talk to girls at a club...for the person who has no problems going and talking to girls they can't understand why that person can't. There is obviously something in their head that just makes it impossible for then to go talk to them..whether its just fear or something else. |
That does not constitute a physical disability, but a mental addiction at best, which is not what we are talking about, or what this case is about. To even bring it up is ludicrous. Even if it is a mental addiction, there is no way the airline should have to take a hit on this.
Are we going to give two seats to a crack head that just cannot sit up straight? Or how about more free alcohol(than the budgeted amount) to the alcoholic that just cannot stop drinking because of some other issues? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
That does not constitute a physical disability, but a mental addiction at best, which is not what we are talking about, or what this case is about. To even bring it up is ludicrous. |
I agree that its not a physical disability but it can lead to the physical disability. I agree that we all have choices but sometimes making those choices are not as simple as some people make them out to be. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
sometimes its easier said then done to lay off the junk food for these people. Many obese people will tell you of the euphoric feeling they get from eating junk food and how it makes them feel better. For many....food is the only thing that has ever made them feel good....its a drug and they are addicted. Just like any other addiction....some can quit and some can't. |
Oh , wah wah. Cry me a river of gravy, fatty. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Oh , wah wah. Cry me a river of gravy, fatty. |
really.....do you really think its funny....I hope that wasn't directed at me personally because that is low...even for you. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| No, it was just general hate. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
No, it was just general hate. |
k....general hate is funny....personal hate.....not so much. |
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| MissK |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
There is more to it then just the high from the food but its definately a factor in why some obese people get so large. There can be many psychological factors that someone goes through and they turn to food because it makes them feel good....some people turn to working out when they feel bad...others turn to alcohol...and others turn to food.
I hate it when people say just put down the cheeseburger because its not that simple sometimes....for some yes it is...but unless you know what is going on in that person's head you can't possibly understand how hard it might be.
Its like that friend who can never go and talk to girls at a club...for the person who has no problems going and talking to girls they can't understand why that person can't. There is obviously something in their head that just makes it impossible for then to go talk to them..whether its just fear or something else. |
I understand your sympathy to those who have eating disorders. Your right it can be comparable to drug/alcohol addictions in the sense that that is their escape.
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In relation to being excused for that and allowed two seats on a plane which would inevitably cost the airline is not right.
Do you think they should not have to pay for that seat simply because they have a disorder? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by MissK
I understand your sympathy to those who have eating disorders. Your right it can be comparable to drug/alcohol addictions in the sense that that is their escape.
BUT...
In relation to being excused for that and allowed two seats on a plane which would inevitably cost the airline is not right.
Do you think they should not have to pay for that seat simply because they have a disorder? |
it really depends on what you consider your ticket purchase is for....is it for a seat on the plane or is it for transportation from point A to point B.
IMO...it should not be automatic for them to get a second seat....a second seat should only be given to someone if there is an available seat.....there is no extra cost as the seat was empty at the time of boarding. If all seats are full then sorry about your luck....seats should not be left empty because there may be a person on the flight that will need two seats. |
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| MissK |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
it really depends on what you consider your ticket purchase is for....is it for a seat on the plane or is it for transportation from point A to point B.
IMO...it should not be automatic for them to get a second seat....a second seat should only be given to someone if there is an available seat.....there is no extra cost as the seat was empty at the time of boarding. If all seats are full then sorry about your luck....seats should not be left empty because there may be a person on the flight that will need two seats. |
the airline cannot make exceptions. there has to be laws within an organization.
If your idea was in place... exceptions could cost the company or cause the airline company too much grief.
They deal with thousands of people a day, it's too much undue effort for an airline to be keeping tabs on how many large people are on the plane. They sell by seat. period. you need two, you pay for two.
Regardless, it's business and to an airline that seat is money. |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
it really depends on what you consider your ticket purchase is for....is it for a seat on the plane or is it for transportation from point A to point B. |
It's an airline, not a bus, so you pay for a seat and not just transportation. If they simply paid for transportation, then people would be standing in the isles like on a bus. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by MissK
the airline cannot make exceptions. there has to be laws within an organization.
If your idea was in place... exceptions could cost the company or cause the airline company too much grief.
They deal with thousands of people a day, it's too much undue effort for an airline to be keeping tabs on how many large people are on the plane. They sell by seat. period. you need two, you pay for two.
Regardless, it's business and to an airline that seat is money. |
The law has to be clear on whether or not being obese is a disability....and at this time the courts have not made this crystal clear. If being obese is a disability then the person should be entitled to a seat that is comfortable at no extra charge.....you wouldn't charge others with disabilities extra.
If the courts make it clear that being obese isn't a disability then...imo...the airline shouldn't be forced to provide two seats...however...as a customer service the airline should try and accomadate someone if there is an extra seat available.
edit: IMO being obese is not a disability unless it substantially prevents you from performing normal activities of life. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by MissK
the airline cannot make exceptions. there has to be laws within an organization.
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Inflexibility in an organization is not a good thing, as I'm sure many of these airlines can attest to. Most large companies are forced to step up the red tape because of scale alone, but it pisses off customers in the mean time. |
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