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Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court (pg. 32)
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| chimera66 |
| yes eric, do you have something to add? |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
yes eric, do you have something to add? |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by failsafe
If you look at large planes doing ultra long haul flying, even 1% of the passengers being fatties would be a huge cost. The amount of extra fuel you have to carry, and then use to fly their extra weight around is a lot more than you'd think. |
seriously, we aren't even talking about 1 percent here. since the person is taking 2 seats it's like it's two people so the weight issue for the overall flight is kind of silly to even consider.
what does a 747 or any of the larger planes weigh? |
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| failsafe |
StereoPrincess:
For my example here we'll say that a 777 flying from Toronto to Hong Kong has 50 empty seats. That way an obese passenger isn't actually displacing someone else out of their seats.
If the obese person weighs 350lbs, that's twice what a "standard passenger" weighs according to Transport Canada. All airlines are using standard weights for their calculations. Each and every pound extra that the plane carries costs the airline money. This is exponentially more on ultra long haul flights.
If there were 5 obese people on the plane that would nearly 1000 lbs of extra weight on the plane above and beyond what would be "normal". The extra fuel needed for the obese would be over 500lbs. Part of the extra fuel is needed of course to carry the weight of the extra fuel itself. So it becomes very costly to put on the extra gas, because you're actually burning a portion of it just to carry the weight of the extra.
I hope this makes things clearer to you. There is absolutely no argument that carrying heavier people doesn't directly impact the costs of a flight. This extra cost is just multiplied for longer flights, or more heavy people. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| didn't a plane crash the other week because it was over weight? |
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| failsafe |
| I hadn't heard of anything in particular this week. There was a crash at point peele a few years ago which was partially attributed to passengers who weight significantly more than the "standard" weight. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by failsafe
StereoPrincess:
For my example here we'll say that a 777 flying from Toronto to Hong Kong has 50 empty seats. That way an obese passenger isn't actually displacing someone else out of their seats.
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with 50 empty seats aren't the airlines losing more money without having the seats filled flying all the way across the ocean?
also, doubt that there would be 5 overweight people. if there are there are 5 underweight people or children that count as a person if they take up a seat. law of averages. |
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| gummybear |
how do they determine who gets and extra seat? i'm curious to know how much you have to weigh to get the seat? do you have to provide a letter from your doctor or do they weigh you on that luggage thing? (that would be embarrassing)
i think it would happen a lot more than three times a year.. basically be all the people who have previously had to pay for the extra seat would now qualify for a second seat....as well as all the fat people who previously didn't travel cuz they had to pay for extra seat...considering that a large percentage of our population is fat....i see it happening frequently.. |
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| failsafe |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
with 50 empty seats aren't the airlines losing more money without having the seats filled flying all the way across the ocean?
also, doubt that there would be 5 overweight people. if there are there are 5 underweight people or children that count as a person if they take up a seat. law of averages. |
Way to avoid the point, and focus on something trivial in attempt to discredit facts.
1. No a plane can certainly make money with 50 empty seats. It would all depend on the yield for the route. Very heavily served routes like Vegas would need nearly full planes to even have a shot at breaking even.
2. The "standard" passenger weight takes into account the typical variation in wights. It takes into account the weight of children and infants too. What it doesn't take into account is the morbidly obese. Which is the point where getting at.
I've personally seen lots of flights with far more than 5 obese people. When you're calling for extra seat belt extenders you know it's gonna be a "heavy load". I'm assuming you haven't flown in the states very much? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Soooo we all still hate fat people, right? |
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| The Ear |
You can't tell me that for the safety of the plane this guy should have been allowed to fly anything more than in the cargo hold locked inside a crate with a bag of hamsters to feed on. |
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