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[OFFICIAL] 2006 MLB (and WBC) thread... (pg. 14)
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stunade
Joe Di will always be greater. Or are you just saying that cuz his ing offspring froze the poor guy? God damned no class red sux. |
I'm saying that because Ted Williams was great from the first day of his career till the last day. But that's pretty funny that you caught that. As for Joe DiMaggio compared to Williams... there is no comparison. Ted Williams is the 2nd best hitter of all time. And Joe isn't first. :p |
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| Vlad |
The Clipper was great, but I think Ted Williams is better and he gets alot of bad press from New Yorkers cause he was a Red Sox - pretty lame way to look at it.
DiMaggio Career #'s
BA = .325
OBP = .398
SLG = .579
OPS = .977
Runs = 1390 | Runs/Sea = 130
Hits = 2214 | Hits/Sea = 207
HRs = 361 | HRs/Sea = 34
RBIs = 1537 | RBIs/Sea = 143
Williams Career #'s
BA = .344
OBP = .482
SLG = .634
OPS = 1.116
Runs = 1798 | Runs/Sea = 127
Hits = 2654| Hits/Sea = 188
HRs = 521 | HRs/Sea = 37
RBIs = 1839 | RBIs/Sea = 130
** Keep in mind that Ted Williams crushed his elbow in 1950, which resurfaced in 1951 and got called up to active duty in the Korean War in 1952. After the elbow injury his numbers werent the same nor was he able to play a full season, yet he was still able to hit the ball incredibly well. His WORST hitting season he hit .317 - which is incredible. |
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| Vlad |
Here are the top 15 hitters of all time:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Lou Gehrig
4. Rogers Hornsby
5. Stan Musial
6. Barry Bonds
7. Jimmie Foxx
8. Ty Cobb
9. Willie Mays
10. Hank Aaron
11. Mickey Mantle
12. Tris Speaker
13. Frank Robinson
14. Mel Ott
15. Honus Wagner |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
And, if it took batters 10 years to become used to his cutter, which is the only pitch he throws, I'd say that's pretty damn good. I doubt Francisco Rodriguez makes it that long just throwing his slider. |
Every pro analyst says that F-Rod's mechanics will put him on the DL atleast a few times during the year (which is why I got Scot Shields on my team. :p) |
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| Shamez214 |
| Pedro gets his 200th win. Yay. I think this is Pedro's last "great" year. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Pedro gets his 200th win. Yay. I think this is Pedro's last "great" year. |
Everyone thought that every year for the past 4 years would be Clemens last great year, yet he still was able to come out, play and get wins, furthermore, having one of the best years of his career at the age of 40 last year. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Everyone thought that every year for the past 4 years would be Clemens last great year, yet he still was able to come out, play and get wins, furthermore, having one of the best years of his career at the age of 40 last year. |
Thing is... Clemens has had plenty of bad years. Pedro has none. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Thing is... Clemens has had plenty of bad years. Pedro has none. |
Im so used to seeing him win and own, and I wouldnt put it past him to be able to go another 2 solid years. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Here are the top 15 hitters of all time:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Lou Gehrig
4. Rogers Hornsby
5. Stan Musial
6. Barry Bonds
7. Jimmie Foxx
8. Ty Cobb
9. Willie Mays
10. Hank Aaron
11. Mickey Mantle
12. Tris Speaker
13. Frank Robinson
14. Mel Ott
15. Honus Wagner |
What is this going by? Going by OPS+, Barry should be 3rd on that list.
1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Barry Bonds
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Rogers Hornsby
6. Mickey Mantle
7. Joe Jackson
8. Ty Cobb
9. Jimmie Foxx
9. Mark McGwire (ugh)
I skipped Pujols, who is 9th on that list right now and Dan Brouthers who had 5 ABs after 1896.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l...us_career.shtml |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Im so used to seeing him win and own, and I wouldnt put it past him to be able to go another 2 solid years. |
Are we talking about Clemens or Pedro? |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
What is this going by? Going by OPS+, Barry should be 3rd on that list.
1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Barry Bonds
4. Lou Gehrig
5. Rogers Hornsby
6. Mickey Mantle
7. Joe Jackson
8. Ty Cobb
9. Jimmie Foxx
9. Mark McGwire (ugh)
I skipped Pujols, who is 9th on that list right now and Dan Brouthers who had 5 ABs after 1896.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l...us_career.shtml |
I got it from Baseball Guru, who got it from baseball reference. They measured it by a combination of... BPR (batter proficiency rating), .01% of RC (run production), and CPT (career proficiency total) |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Are we talking about Clemens or Pedro? |
Pedro. Clemens will either have his last year this year or he will be completely done. |
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