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President of Poland and other high-ranking officials killed in plane crash (pg. 20)
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StereoPrincess
here is a slide show of some of the others that died in the plane crash.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/...cy-session.html

lol. they are very polish looking. :) <3
geroin
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
..especially at a circle-jerking party that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.


i'm sorry margs but you were the one who went completely off topic moving this discussion into where it went right here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=7

and now you're calling us russian history loving people and "circle jerking each other"? this is WORLD history not russian history, people are taught this in grade 10 history class in Canada, not even going to mention russia here.
FunkyCrew
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
lol. they are very polish looking. :) <3


they are very Slavic looking :) could pass for any of the Slavic nationalities
the women look more European though (and quite young looking too!)
StereoPrincess
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Originally posted by geroin
i'm sorry margs but you were the one who went completely off topic moving this discussion into where it went right here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=7

and now you're calling us russian history loving people and "circle jerking each other"? this is WORLD history not russian history, people are taught this in grade 10 history class in Canada, not even going to mention russia here.


right in my post I said it had nothing to do with the topic. everyone jumped on my comments. that is not my fault. i am starting to get really angry and offended by everyone. why is it so hard for people to undertand things. you expect me to repect and read every little thing you all write but don't bother to give me the same courtesy. don't give me the respect of even trying to understand what i am saying.

PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE WORLD THAN YOU. the key is to understand that fact if we ever want peace.

a ing horrible thing happened to some nice people and all people can focus on is that I said that Poland may have problems with trusting the Russians in the investigation. How ing hard is that to understand. You people are not leading the investigation, you people don't have worry about your families economic fallout from this.

I am not even speaking in first person. I don't live in Poland now, I don't have the same views as the Polish people but I do know the history at least enough to say what I say.

i never even said that russians were at fault for the crash. i even said what i think happened and it seems that is what exactly happened. but i tried to explain why there may be conspiracy theories going around because in the past there HAVE been conspiracies.

i wanted to explain why polish people may not trust the russians or anybody actually in leading the investigation. that's all. it's not my fault that you personally are offended that Poland as a country does not trust Russia as a country. But it really has nothing to do with you personally or anyone else on this board. none of you are Russian government officials. Geez.

i didn't need a brain washing lesson from everyone. i knew what was happening, i lived there. my parents lived there. i know the stories.

canadian history books don't mention the fact that the allies left the eastern-bloc countries to the mercy of stalin. no one mentions that.
geroin
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
right in my post I said it had nothing to do with the topic. everyone jumped on my comments. that is not my fault. i am starting to get really angry now with everyone. why is it so hard for people to undertand things.


we didn't jump on your comments, we responded to your comments because it is a message board. I'm not sure why you are getting angry since you started this convo in the first place..

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PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE WORLD THAN YOU. the key is to understand that fact if we ever want peace.


you could have a different view of the world, that's completely fine but you cannot ignore the historical facts that took place.


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i wanted to explain why polish people may not trust the russians or anybody actually in leading the investigation. that's all. it's not my fault that you personally are offended that Poland as a country does not trust Russia as a country. But it really has nothing to do with you personally or anyone else on this board. none of you are Russian government officials. Geez.


I didn't read anywhere mentioning that Poland does does not trust Russia as a country in the investigation, what i did read is that Poland and Russia are jointly working on the investigation.


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i didn't need a brain washing lesson from everyone. i knew what was happening, i lived there. my parents lived there. i know the stories.


i lived there too, and i had both grandma and grandpa on both sides participate in the war, 2 of them were fighting in stalingrad and one survived because he got shot in the leg, that's what saved his life. I take like this personal when people leave comments like "Who the hell does Russia think that they saved us??" It's soviet union (USSR) not russia first of all, second of all these veterans fought for our lives, regardless if stalin was right or wrong. We should give these people some respect. If not for them (and i mean all veterans) me, you and many others would not be alive today.

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canadian history books don't mention the fact that the allies left the eastern-bloc countries to the mercy of stalin. no one mentions that.


cold war part.



but best on topic post was this and that really sums up my thoughts in this thread:


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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I'm completely speechless that so many important figures were on the same plane *facepalm* What's more enraging is that some media are claiming that the President himself insisted that they not divert. If true, then that stubborn moron got what he deserved. It's just sad that his ego had to take so many other innocent and much more important people down too. The death of the President will hardly have the same implications as the deaths of all the other people on that plane will (eg. the entire command of the armed forces, the head of the national bank) The President is closer to that of an international figure/ambassador. The Prime Minister is responsible for national activities, interests, etc.

As they say: "madry Polak po szkodzie" (which translates to "A Pole only smartens up after the fact" aka "hindsight is 20/20" as we say here).
evil_cookie
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Originally posted by geroin
If not for them (and i mean all veterans) me, you and many others would not be alive today.


:stongue:

I don't think so, buddy. If we're going by "historical facts," the first nation you should be thanking is the USA.

Seriously, pick up a history textbook and learn about what the Americans did for the world.
geroin
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Originally posted by evil_cookie
:stongue:

I don't think so, buddy. If we're going by "historical facts," the first nation you should be thanking is the USA.

Seriously, pick up a history textbook and learn about what the Americans did for the world.


care to elaborate, buddy?
FunkyCrew
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Originally posted by evil_cookie
Seriously, pick up a history textbook and learn about what the Americans did for the world.


so what DID they do?
smuncky
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Originally posted by VDub
Smucky bring the video camera...

I'll bring the towels...



:toocool:
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by geroin
care to elaborate, buddy?


Rocky IV

VDub
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Originally posted by FunkyCrew
so what DID they do?


Are you really asking that question??

A few small contributions...

Normandy, Sicily, taking Japan out of the war, supplying almost EVERYTHING the Allies needed to fight...
FunkyCrew
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Originally posted by VDub
Are you really asking that question??

A few small contributions...

Normandy, Sicily, taking Japan out of the war, supplying almost EVERYTHING the Allies needed to fight...


lol right
Japan was a huge threat
considering that if the Japanese didn't attack, the Americans wouldn't mobilize
please continue :)
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