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President of Poland and other high-ranking officials killed in plane crash (pg. 9)
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
POTOMU, POTOMU CHNO MI PILOTI
NJEBA NAS, NJEBA NAS RODJILNI DOM
PERVIM DJELOM, PERVIM DJELOM SAMOLETI
A DJEVUSKI I BABUSKI POTOM !!!!! |
Speak English. |
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| hardcore_barbie |
how are jews involved in any of this? lol ...this thread definitely went side ways.
thats why i dont ever post stuff on here lol this topic just hit close to home... |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore_barbie
how are jews involved in any of this? |
They aren't. |
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| Sasha |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Technically speaking, America. |
ok USA |
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| infinity HiGH |
^^
we heard you the first time |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Speak English. |
:rolleyes:
wow. |
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| Vanos |
| quote: | | I like how Russians seem to think that they saved the world from Germany. Poland and Polish people have a very different view of Russians. To the rest of the world Russia was saying "we saved the world from Hitler, we are the best, thank us". Meanwhile they thought that they could take Poland and the other Eastern bloc countries as parting gifts setting up Communist governments while the countries were rebuilding after being blown up to . The Allied forces wanted the war over so they turned the other cheek and headed home. Russia has been controlling the Polish government with pay offs and scare tactics since 1945. Holding military presence right outside the biggest cities in Poland until at least the 80s. Always menacing. But this wasn't the first time that Russia has been in control of Poland. They have been salvating over the land since like the 1700 hundreds. Poland was not a communist country until after the war because of pressures from Russia and since the Allies didn't care, what was Poland supposed to do. They bent over and took it until finally the people were tired of getting ed in the ass by Russia and strong and united enough to take over the government. The action of the Polish people did not only free Poland but many of the other Eastern Bloc countries and eventually Communism in Russia. Poland has always been in the middle of every damn war that they don't want anything to do with. In World War II, Poland lost the largest percentage of people, so I dunno, who really did lose more of their culture? Poland has always been overtaken, divided and then past back and forth between other countries. Even the damn Swedes wanted a piece of Poland. It's also surprising that Polish people are as civil as they are. There is no mass genocide against other countries, there is no revenge killings, but I don't blame the Poles for being bitter, and not trusting other countries after so many centuries of being ed over. Thank the Catholic Church I guess for giving the Polaks something else to do. EDIT: lol. I know this has nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread. I know without a doubt that the accident was the cause of the pilot and the people on board telling him to land right away that caused it. But for the sake of the Polish people since they do not trust Russians, Putin should not be "heading the investigation". |
1. You have to be kidding to downplay Russia's importance in WW2. Pretty much Hitler took all Europe by the balls easy and only left Britian because he had bigger sights in mind. And god knows what would happen if he didnt decide to go for the big risk/big payoff scheme and invade the Soviet Union, because prior to invasion Stalin actually didnt mind cooperating with the Hitler and as far as I studied in 20th century history class in university, Soviets provided a lot of supplies for the development of German autarchy prior to the war. Stalin had his own plans of course, he thought that Hitler would be too scared to invade the Soviets, and he thought that by helping them out he could further reduce the risk of the invasion while he was completing his internal cleansings. His long term plan - potentially - was to wait out until Hitler is dealing with the rest of the countries and have a bit of time to prepare for war himself - crushing germany and taking soviets to domination of ALL europe. However, stuff didnt happen as Stalin planned and Hitler attacked the soviets, moving the vast MAJORITY of german troops into the Union. If you do the research then youll find out that pretty much most of Hitler's army was fighting in SU and allies from the west only dealt with minor component. ALL the crucial blows to Hitler's army were done by the Soviets, especially the Battle of Stalingrad (the biggest battle in world history)- the most crucial blow from which Germany has never really recovered. IF Hitler did not decide to invade SU at that point of time the most likely potential outcomes would be: a) tripolar world, - USA, Germany, SU b) bipolar world - if Germany and SU would take out USA c). bipolar world - Germany, USA - if Germany would eventually take out SU d). bipolar world - but not similar to coldwar - with SU, USA, with SU controlling all europe and being much more powerful than under real historical conditions. IF Hitler went the same as he did but only managed to take moscow etc. in the early days of war the most likely outcome would be bi polar world with germany controlling most of eurasia. So if the Soviets wouldnt Hitler up in SU, most likely most of ur country's population and mine too (aside from the ones that could be "germanized") would be second class subservient/slave people of the Germans. Thats not too say that under other conditions Soviet Union would act to deliberately save someone from something BUT under real historical conditions basically the whole world structure today and the fact the Germans were defeated basically resulted from SU input - which by the way lost over 20 million people in the war, which is the largest war casualty amount of all times - try to comprehend that number
2. Regarding conquering of eastern bloc countries etc. Do not forget that in the world of big politics there is no good or bad guys there is just interests. All countries try to promote their interests given the degree of their ability. That was always the case and will always be. So yea Soviet Union took over Eastern Europe but that is what any other empire would do in the circumstances. Right now many ppl in the world think US is a "bad" country, others think Russia is a "bad" country other think Iran is etc. but it is all really only about interests.
3. I ing hate Polish hypocricy when it comes to saying "Russians are so bad they ed us up throughout history like this and like that". 1st of all as was previously mentioned its all just interests and nothing to do with bad/good but IF you do complain about how Russia was ing up Poland then maybe it also makes sense to mention about how Poland was ing up Ukraine thoughout history and how they treated Ukrainians thorughout their invasions??? |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sasha
wow so stupid.
Long Live Hitler! |
You know what Sasha??
I've been insulted many times by a lot of ppl on this board, but coming from you, this was the worst one..
I'm going to stop participating with this thread now but I'll say one more thing...
You've made it obvious to me that what they taught you in school back in mother Russia is VASTLY different then what we were taught here... |
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| Sasha |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
You've made it obvious to me that what they taught you in school back in mother Russia is VASTLY different then what we were taught here... |
i will agree with you for the first time in this thread.
that is true.
And don't take it personally. I still think you are good people :p |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
:rolleyes:
wow. |
People shouldn't use language to hide behind their comments. This is an English forum, so if you are going to contribute do it so everybody can understand. |
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