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So much for unlimited internet ! (pg. 5)
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| PurpleHaze |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brennen
Im guessing both.
Seeing as this is an EDM board, DJ and Producers should be worried. Think about how many gigs of music and productions they upload/download a month. Add to that normal web browsing and media streaming and you will easily go over the cap and start paying big bucks. |
I'm not saying that it won't hurt them but come on...an extra ~$500/yr extra on the GBs they go over per month is really gonna hurt them or stop them from downloading as much? Yes, maybe it will...but then also that might restrict them to the tracks they purchase/download and will be required to filter through more junk ;) lol |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brennen
Im guessing both.
Seeing as this is an EDM board, DJ and Producers should be worried. Think about how many gigs of music and productions they upload/download a month. Add to that normal web browsing and media streaming and you will easily go over the cap and start paying big bucks. |
So does this mean they'll have to leave the house, go to a store, and buy physical media???
Maybe promote themselves by actually playing for ppl in a club???
Preposterous!!! |
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| Takayuki |
| Are that many of you so astonished that this was passed by the CRTC? If you haven't noticed already, Bell's customers have diminished immensely over the years and they will continue to do so. These bandwith caps are put in place because Bell was losing so many customers to other providers, the bandwith which of course being rented from Bell and giving them clout by offering unlimited plans. The grand marketing ploy put in place here by Bell is to drive out the smaller companies so that they eventually fold. Thus leaving Bell's competition scarce with just the monopolies such as Rogers and Telus. Despite Bell upgrading to "Fibre Optics", the new CRTC changes taking effect on February 1st will just give consumers another reason to never want to be a Bell customer again. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| well i signed the petition. i'll do my best to spread the word but i'm betting most people won't give a until its too late. then they'll cry, whine, bitch and moan while taking it up the ass. |
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| Ania_xox |
My boyfriend and I got into a fight over this :stongue:
He was researching HD cable+internet bundles for our new place and giving me all these numbers and saying stuff like:
"I think we should get the Extreme Plus plan because you'll be working from home blah blah blah etc. and we won't want to go over the limit... 25mbps something something"
and I was all "WTF are you talking about... limit on the internet?!"
I have no idea how much bandwidth I use. I very seldom download, but I do a lot of online conferencing for work.
This is really gay. |
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| kamil |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
well i signed the petition. i'll do my best to spread the word but i'm betting most people won't give a until its too late. then they'll cry, whine, bitch and moan while taking it up the ass. |
Sounds like a typical Canadian. |
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| kamil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
My boyfriend and I got into a fight over this :stongue:
He was researching HD cable+internet bundles for our new place and giving me all these numbers and saying stuff like:
"I think we should get the Extreme Plus plan because you'll be working from home blah blah blah etc. and we won't want to go over the limit... 25mbps something something"
and I was all "WTF are you talking about... limit on the internet?!"
I have no idea how much bandwidth I use. I very seldom download, but I do a lot of online conferencing for work.
This is really gay. |
You have a boyfriend?! |
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| UXC |
This is a huge deal. :(
Gotta spread the word, but man does no one care/know what bandwidth is.
Having worked many years in computer retail I can safely say that 80% of the customers I met weren't aware of or grasp the idea of bandwidth. It is maybe only recently when everyone started getting data on their phones did people start looking into what it was, and that's only with Grade A consumers mind you. |
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| Yohan |
| well, at least mainstream media is reporting this |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Actually its corporations pressuring the government to act in a restrictive manner for their benefit and the government saying yes. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Capitalism is doing exactly what it is supposed to in this case, bribing, and forcing anybody they need/want to so they get their way. |
Reading comprehension ftw - glad you were able to decipher Orko's ever-so-complex observation and then regurgitate it to make it sound like you're right. You've essentially repeated what he said using different words...and of course, being the thick-headed individual you are, you will now argue that you didn't.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Lets bring in true competition in the form of no restrictions on foreign ownership and lets see how long these bull practices last. |
Right, because opening markets to foreign ownership will eradicate opportunism of any kind, once and for all.
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| GGM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Actually its corporations pressuring the government to act in a restrictive manner for their benefit and the government saying yes. Government restrictions are anti capitalist. So these corporations are milking the interventionist system for their benefit. If there was true competition you wouldnt have this problem in the first place. Lets bring in true competition in the form of no restrictions on foreign ownership and lets see how long these bull practices last.
Pivitechno: you are getting slow in your reaction time LOL! |
Well you're kinda limiting your research to this thread and basing judgement purely on whats in here. You need to go back in history and you'll see what you are saying makes no sense whatsoever.
This started when highspeed internet was gaining in popularity and the big monopolies had a lock on the infrastructure you needed to use to sell it. That infrastructure was extremely expensive to set up and that meant that it was near impossible for a startup or smaller guy to come onto the market. The monopolies weren't letting any companies piggyback their infrastructure. Why would they if they had to chose between renting it to a consumer through a small company for cheap, or renting it to that consumer directly for more money. This was in essence your "true competition".
CRTC came in and forced them to rent out their infrastructure and arrangements were set up based on what was the norm at the time (no bandwidth caps). So when the deals were made lets say for every $1.00 Bell made off a direct Bell customer, they would make $0.90 of a customer they had going through a small guy. 10 cents, not a big deal especially when you consider you don't have to hire the extra staff to deal with the customer going through a small guy and you're just renting out infrastructure you already had in place anyways. All is good profits are being made by everyone.
Well then of course the startups started to grow bigger and at the same time the big guys said hey we can screw people with bandwidth caps and overage charges just like we already do on phones. Before they had only speed to upsell and now with bandwidth limits packages become more expensive. So higher packages + overage charges Bell was then making say $1.50 of a direct Bell customer. But, the customer through the small guy was still only making them $0.90. And where a 10 cent gap is acceptable to stockholders and greedy management, a 60 cent gap is not. To top it off the large differential in plan pricing also means more people switching to the smaller guy which means more $0.90 customers and less $1.50 customers. Then comes corporate pressure, lobbying, and of course probly backdoor bribes and all that fun stuff that we all know goes on but we don't hear about.
So now we have a situation where the small guys will likely die off and we'll be left with exactly the same situation we had 10-15 years ago. The big 3 and nobody else. Good job CRTC... |
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| jester |
| At least Konrad von Finckenstein is out in 2012. Hopefully someone younger and not connected to big corporations would take his spot, but thats wishful thinking on my part. Plus its still in the hands of the "Industry Canada". |
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