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Working Out Thread Part II (pg. 77)
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
he's saying that because you use a lot of tricep when doing pec exercise and likewise with back and biceps...i think its really a personal thing though...work whatever you feel is a good combo for you...
that's why you probably have ty calves ;)
ask orbax what is up...he never worked legs because he ran and climbed and stuff...but he's liking them now ain't he hehehe...
same with calves...people that don't worry about them 1. are after beach muscles or 2. think they have big calves in relation to the rest of their body, but remember calves are a lot harder to work and grow then other muscles...just something to think about |
meh my calves are still an inch bigger then my arms so i wont to try and get them the same, or else close before i work on claves. Since i dont have huge time at the minute to be working out i feel its better putting work into other areas.
Will start with calves when in the summer though. Will give the chest and bicep routine and back and triceps one a whirl from next monday. |
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Orbax For chest...just keep on going. Drop the weight and do an extra set or 2 of 12 to get a final blast to completely destroy them. It takes a few months hehe keep with it ;) |
like the ing gobe i am, i only realised last night in bed messing around how perfect form will be a big help in chest excerise.
that could be a problem daydreamer aswell.
anyway, i need to start packign the weight on, i have been on 139lbs for about a month now with now real gains. Do i need more protein or carbs? or just shuffle anything and everything into my mouth? |
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| diego |
went to my new gym today and it sucks, stupid annoying eurotrance is playing the whole time and does it's upmost to wreck my focus, they even have it playing in the changing rooms.
as well as that no-one in there seems to have a clue what there at, all a bunch of pussies who don't push themselves at all.
and the freakin dumbbells only go up to 25kg, pathetic!
lost 10lbs over the last 8 days 'cause of my operation, now time to gain 10lbs back in 1 weeks and 20lbs in 3.
on a more positive note there was 1 really fit girl there, definitely do-able |
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| Michael19 |
| how come you changed? whats the new one your at now? |
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| diego |
| left dublin, finished my job, living in meath now as there's no point wasting money on rent for the remaining 3 weeks until i depart on my round the world holiday |
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| Omegasox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Michael19
Do i need more protein or carbs? or just shuffle anything and everything into my mouth? |
139? Shovel everything into your mouth. Doesn't even have to be clean, although it will save you time down the road. Eat, eat, eat! |
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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by diego
left dublin, finished my job, living in meath now as there's no point wasting money on rent for the remaining 3 weeks until i depart on my round the world holiday |
ah best of luck with the world travels!
| quote: | | 139? Shovel everything into your mouth. Doesn't even have to be clean, although it will save you time down the road. Eat, eat, eat! |
i'll get shoveling so! :stongue: |
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| kelly923 |
| quote: | Originally posted by diego
went to my new gym today and it sucks, stupid annoying eurotrance is playing the whole time and does it's upmost to wreck my focus, they even have it playing in the changing rooms.
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lol, at the "total body" class I go to, the guy plays "techno"... like the blue song (vomit) and all that other cheese |
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| Floorfiller |
hey so i've been trying to figure out a new diet plan because i think what i was doing before was dumb...here is a basic lay out...comments
Protein 40%
Carbs 40%
Fat 20%
190 lbs of body weight
190 x 1.5 = 285
285 grams of protein a day
285 x 4 = 1140 calories from protein a day
285 / 6 = 47.5 grams of protein a meal
285 grams of carbs a day
285 x 4 = 1140 cals from carbs, daily
285 / 6 = 47.5 grams of carbs a meal
1140 x 2 = 2280 cals from protein and carbs, daily
2280 / .8 = 2850 cals a day total
2850 - 2280 = 570 cals from fat
570 / 9 = 63.3 grams of fat per day
63.3 / 3 = 21.1 grams of fat, 3 times a day
i guess my real question is...what do you guys think about when is the best time to be getting all of these things. i think i'm going to end up eating more carbs before a workout for example and less at a down time in the day. same with protein, probably more after a work out etc. and what about fat...when is the best time of day to have that in there? and obviously i don't wanna be eating a lot of fat and carbs before bed time...
discuss... |
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| Gauss |
Floorfiller... It's not like you're training for a professional contest or something... You're not a pro bodybuilder. :P
At first I did what you're doing (all those calculations) as well, but as the time passed, I did it more rarely.
Just eat whenever you feel like and eat food for which you know it contains lots of proteins. Carbs and fat will come by itself.
Turkey and chicken breast, tuna, fatless cheese, oat... That should be your main... Err, food. :tongue2
Eat a lot of it and you're good to go. Unless you're a pro, which you're not. ;) |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gauss
Floorfiller... It's not like you're training for a professional contest or something... You're not a pro bodybuilder. :P
At first I did what you're doing (all those calculations) as well, but as the time passed, I did it more rarely.
Just eat whenever you feel like and eat food for which you know it contains lots of proteins. Carbs and fat will come by itself.
Turkey and chicken breast, tuna, fatless cheese, oat... That should be your main... Err, food. :tongue2
Eat a lot of it and you're good to go. Unless you're a pro, which you're not. ;) |
well no none of us are pros hehehe...but we still wanna look good right? i mean...i just wanna do it the right way so i can be lean as well... |
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| Omegasox |
Floorfiller, I've been doing diet research for the past month or so since I've been trying to bulk (and drink beer) for the past several months and forgot how I achieved it last summer. This is the gist of what I've come up with, leaving out most of the scientific mumbo-jumbo, but everything stated has a reason for it being so. :)
You want to eat a nominal amount of protein at every meal, typically 5-6 meals a day. A fast-absorbing protein PostW (read the link I posted yesterday; dextrose and whey are optimum), and a slow-absorbing protein before bed (cottage cheese, or casein shake; you're not going to be taking in food for ~8 hours, your muscles still need to eat while you sleep!).
Carbs should come at breakfast, pre-workout and post-workout, and sparingly at other times throughout the day. You want simple carbs, such as oats, brown rice, yams, black beans, etc. If you can stomach it, fats will normally come from fish/meat, but you also want to supplement with omega 3's in the form of Flaxseed Oil and/or Fish Oil.
After several tweaks, this is the current diet I am using, and have been losing ~2 pounds a week with minimal loss of LBM. We're almost the identical weight, so your caloric intake will be similar.
10:00AM
1/2 Cup Oats
1/2 Cup Natty Applesauce
4 Egg Whites
1 Whole Egg
1 Tbsp Flaxseed Oil
1 Serving Whey
1:00PM
High Fiber Wrap
6 Slices of Turkey
1 Tbsp Hummus
3:45PM
Can of Tuna
1 Serving Black Beans
--Workout--
6:30PM
2 Servings Whey
50g Dextrose
8:30
8oz Chicken Breast or 6oz Salmon
Cup of Asparagus
11:00
Can of Tuna
1 Serving Black Beans
1 Tbsp Flaxseed Oil
Total Cals: 2097
Fat: 61g
Carbs: 154g
Protein: 248g
P/C/F: 49%/24%/27%
Edit: If you follow a similar plan, with your carbs lower than 200g a day, you want to carb-up once or twice a week shooting for 350g or so. |
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