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Best idea ever: Muslim gay bar possibly opening next to Ground Zero mosque (pg. 23)
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Yeah... a YMCA where woman are only allowed to sit in the back of the room. |
Yea a church where gays aren't allowed to get married.
Religion is a bad thing. Period. There is no use for it anymore. All it does is make hate. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Religion is a bad thing. Period. There is no use for it anymore. All it does is make hate. |
For once I agree with you. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
What do they build... churches? Synagogues? Look at Turkey now compared to 1000 years ago when it was the center of the Christian world. Did you watch 60 Minutes last week about the remaining Christian Orthodox population being squeezed out? And hello... Cordoba... Spain... the Christian city conquered in 711 by Muslims where the now famous Cordoba Mosque rests as its conquering symbol (which is partly build with materials of a Christian church that was previously in that space). Dude, come on, of course it's a symbol victory- right where their biggest attack on America took place. Political correctness is blinding people. |
A Mosque is their version of a church or a synagogue..
The Cordoba Mosque was finished around 1000 A.D. which was also around the time when southern Spain had great peace and Christians, Muslims, and Jews all lived together peacefully (around the time that the Western World was re-introduced to Aristotle and a ton of other great things). Cordoba was a fantastic place in between when the Muslims conquered it and the Christians had the lovely Inquisition.
Who cares what it's made out of? Go look at the Middle East and look at the castles and churches from the Crusades. Westerners aren't exactly the nicest people.
THEIR biggest attack? Yes, because ALL Muslims were behind 9/11. It wasn't just a small extreme group from the Middle East. They ALL ganged up on us and now are making fun of us and asserting their dominance by trying to expand their prayer room into a Muslim YMCA for the community.
You're just being offensive and idiotic now. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
I see what you're saying, but I made that comment based on actual conversations with other TA's, and just general observation over time. I can't think of another TA that so many others dislike. As for me, yeah I'm bothered by it because everyone around here treats each other with mutual respect 99% of the time... and after never saying a negative word to him, without ever even talking directly with him he decided to take aim at me and get personal about it, turning virtually every comment or topic from me into a "kevin is a racist, dumb, selfish, nazi, bigot, uninformed, mentally challenged" themed discussion. It's ing annoying man... he has no common decency. So what if he's someone on an internet forum? |
Never-mind the fact that it's an internet forum. I'm not even speaking to that aspect. I'm specifically speaking of the impact of his behavior relative to the response you're giving him.
If he were someone you knew in your circle of friends, who by virtue of his continual arrogance and harassment, was actually causing problems for you, I could understand. If it were a prison yard, where turning the other cheek is a fatal sign of weakness, I would more than understand. He, however, is neither such entity and, as you've pointed out, has very limited respect from your mutual social milieu. In this particular instance, the problem you have with JW is 1% JW's making and 99% the importance you've attached to it.
In taking the course of action you're taking, you've vested JW with respect you claim to be withheld from him. You're giving his words currency. If your own observation were actually true - that JW doesn't have the respect of anyone of merit in the COR - you're actions function to upturn that observation by virtue of the credence he's holding with you. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Yeah... a YMCA where woman are only allowed to sit in the back of the room. Don't take my word for it... listen to some Muslims:
We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation:
By Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah
Rest of the article here--> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/M...303/story.html# |
*facepalm* |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
THEIR biggest attack? Yes, because ALL Muslims were behind 9/11. It wasn't just a small extreme group from the Middle East. They ALL ganged up on us and now are making fun of us and asserting their dominance by trying to expand their prayer room into a Muslim YMCA for the community.
You're just being offensive and idiotic now. |
Who's offended... you? Are you a Muslim who thinks it's offensive for me to suggest such a "wild" accusation that this monstrosity build next door to Ground Zero is not really in the name of outreach? LOL! How are you personally offended by what I'm saying right now?
And, if you think a small group of extremists is all we're dealing with, then I don't know what to say. Are you aware that the Imam in charge of the whole thing refuses to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization, and explained in multiple interviews that the U.S. government is at least partially responsible for the 9/11 attacks?
"cultural center".... :stongue: |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
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Hey man... I'm not a robot a la Arbiter. Some gets to me, especially personal disrespect for no substantive reason, regardless of how much/little communication I've had with someone. Not much else I can say. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Hey man... I'm not a robot a la Arbiter. Some gets to me, especially personal disrespect for no substantive reason, regardless of how much/little communication I've had with someone. Not much else I can say. |
And what I'm telling you is the only way that is getting to you is because, somewhere inside yourself, you have deemed it credible. If you let inconsequential get to you, you would barely be functional because almost everything would bother you. Clearly, you don't let inconsequential get to you and clearly, you are functional. Ergo, JW's posts, to you, are credible enough to merit a response. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
And what I'm telling you is the only way that is getting to you is because, somewhere inside yourself, you have deemed it credible. If you let inconsequential get to you, you would barely be functional because almost everything would bother you. Clearly, you don't let inconsequential get to you and clearly, you are functional. Ergo, JW's posts, to you, are credible enough to merit a response. |
haha... no man that's not the reason. I had some restaurant manager question me the other day about something minor I was doing for work, asking me, "So do you need to be 'edu-mu-cated' to do this type of work?" And I said, "Uhhh... yeah it helps." And he continued, "So did you even go to college?" To which I responded yes. He continued, "So is this like, you're 'lifelong goal'... to be doing this kind of work?"
The ing nerve, right!? And nothing he said was credible, because I have an education that far exceeded his, I own the damn business for which I was doing something inconsequential at the moment, and I don't even know what my lifelong goals are. But I was still highly insulted (rightfully so) because he was disrespectful and condescending. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
haha... no man that's not the reason. I had some restaurant manager question me the other day about something minor I was doing for work, asking me, "So do you need to be 'edu-mu-cated' to do this type of work?" And I said, "Uhhh... yeah it helps." And he continued, "So did you even go to college?" To which I responded yes. He continued, "So is this like, you're 'lifelong goal'... to be doing this kind of work?"
The ing nerve, right!? And nothing he said was credible, because I have an education that far exceeded his, I own the damn business for which I was doing something inconsequential at the moment, and I don't even know what my lifelong goals are. But I was still highly insulted (rightfully so) because he was disrespectful and condescending. |
Are you from the Southern United States? |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
The Cordoba Mosque was finished around 1000 A.D. which was also around the time when southern Spain had great peace and Christians, Muslims, and Jews all lived together peacefully (around the time that the Western World was re-introduced to Aristotle and a ton of other great things). Cordoba was a fantastic place in between when the Muslims conquered it and the Christians had the lovely Inquisition. |
Your history is all wrong.
| quote: | | Oddly enough, the so-called "tolerant" era of Cordoba supposedly occurred during the caliphate of 'Abd al-Rahman III (912-961) — well over a thousand years ago. "Eight hundred years ago," i.e., around 1200, the fanatical Almohids — ideological predecessors of al Qaeda — were ravaging Cordoba, where "Christians and Jews were given the choice of conversion, exile, or death." |
http://books.google.com/books?id=Td...%20jews&f=false
Guess we know how they lived together "peacefully"... if they didn't conform, they'd be killed or exiled. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Are you from the Southern United States? |
No. I just happen to live here right now. But I'll tell you something... some of the most savvy businessmen I've ever met live in Charlotte and Raleigh. |
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