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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
OK, even if any of that is true, at least they were conspiring FOR the people. The left is more often than not for the people. The right is for themselves.
The left is good, the right is bad. That is an undeniable fact. Look at social security. The right wants it gone and NO ONE ELSE DOES, not even the moderate right, which is the old people in this country (the like really old, not the dumb ass I am 49-69 old, but the 70+ retired old, you know the ones that live on social security).
What does the right wanna do? Give it away to wall street to rape for the tiny bit of money it has left. ing insanity. AND YOU SUPPORT THIS KEVIN. YOU SUPPORT OLD PEOPLE DYING IN THE STREETS OR WORKING TILL THE GRAVE. WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT? :conf: ITS ING SICK. You are disgusting.
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
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I bet he thinks I am serious too. ing right wingers. No sense of humor. |
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
That's also part of the problem... CNN doesn't report on many things that should be reported, especially when they are detrimental to Democrat and left wing positions. It's similar to lies of omission. Major news outlets are not about reporting the news anymore, they're about shaping it.
How can you claim "hoax" after the whole JournoList (started by Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein) thing happened last month, exposing the emails that showed coordinated strategical attacks by 400+ people from the left wing media hacks working for the WaPo, NY Times, LA Times, Politico, etc, against conservatives? There was clear collusion between them suggesting using their power, secretively, to bring down the Right. Here are a couple of examples from their leaked emails (JournoList was shut down after being exposed).
1) Trying to find a way to have the government/FCC shut down Fox News (ironic to have journalists being anti first amendment)? This was initially suggested by UCLA law professor Jonathan Zasloff! He began that discussion like this:
This is a law professor trying to figure out how to destroy the 1st Amendment for those with opposing viewpoints. He's not even smart enough to know Cable isn't regulated by the FCC.
2) Openly discussing how to paint "any" conservative reporter as a racist in order to deflect attention away from the Obama/Jeremiah Wright story. Here's Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independant sending out a shot to the rest of the JournoList members:
Are you ing kidding me!?
3) Not on the JournoList, but when the story broke a few weeks ago, this woman's comment to Politico was done with some pretty heavy candor: Mary Frances Berry, professor at the University of Pennsylvania, former chair of the US Commission on Civil Rights.
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Time to open your eyes, uninformed Lefties. This JournoList debacle confirms what we already suspected; setting up templates from within on which to report stories before they came out. How in the hell can anyone claim a "vast right wing media conspiracy"? LOL that's laughable... there is only 1 major cable news channel that leans conservative. Did your precious unbiased CNN report on this (JournoList)? Didn't think so. ;) |
Really? A lesson on candour from the same people that trough spin made liberal and left into dirty words. As for your quotes there, dont take this personally (actually forget that, do take this personally) but american conservatives arent the most trustworthy people around and especially the fine tools at faux news have been more than once guilty of some heavy quote mining, grasping at the tiniest of straws to spin the story to their desire. The first one especially has a look of something that has been taken out of context and presented as something far more damaging as the author of said quote intended.
Comenting what it says in the second...are they wrong. The right wing media tried to make a non story such as one delusional priest into a major scandal, and across the board, from the fine tools at faux to talk radio and newspapers kept hammering the talking point about Obamas connection to Wright (and what a great story it was, obama, the secret muslim - a blatant lie spread by the rwm and his strong connection to a christian priest...makes no sense if you actually stop to think about it but then again, thinking is such a progressive thing to do). The whole point of the wright madia coverage was to make the white people scared of the big bad black obama and his strange waya, so if the alleged left wing conspiracy wanted to point out the obvious...well good for them, though they should have done a better job at it.
Which bring me to quote number three. I dont know much about this story as i had other things to worry about for the past few weeks than american politics, but from what i know i can sum it up in three words. Staying on message. Dont act like they did such a terrible and unprecedented thing, again the right wing media has been keeping their talking points straight for years, except that they get them straight from the gop and in this case it took a reporter to try and round up the left leaning pople to stay focused. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
That's also part of the problem... CNN doesn't report on many things that should be reported, especially when they are detrimental to Democrat and left wing positions. It's similar to lies of omission. Major news outlets are not about reporting the news anymore, they're about shaping it. |
It's not about left or right wing. I keep trying to point that out but you keep re-enforcing that paradigm. Even with a left-wing dint in CNN's editorial decisions, what you still get with CNN is only partial information with which it is impossible to be adequately informed. Often times information isn't slanted with a political bias, in mind, but one which maintains ignorance over most issues discussed while reinforcing continuous confirmation bias.
If they took the Rorschach inkblots and turned it into twenty four hour news, you'd get CNN. It's enough information to distinguish basic shapes but the rest is completely subjective. A Republican would get better, more informed, more coherent content listening to NPR than he or she would ever watching CNN. They might not like what they hear, having had my personal fill of listening to stories about feminist lesbians who grow tomatoes in their back-yard, but they would at least be able to speak to the issues discussed with a democrat and have a functional understanding of them.
Arguing that CNN is leftest is like arguing that the Titanic isn't sea worthy. Sure, there's a big hole in the haul, but even if you managed to repair it, in its current state, the mother****** is still underneath a bazillion gallons of water. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Arguing that CNN is leftest is like arguing that the Titanic isn't sea worthy. Sure, there's a big hole in the haul, but even if you managed to repair it, in its current state, the mother****** is still underneath a bazillion gallons of water. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
OK, even if any of that is true, at least they were conspiring FOR the people. The left is more often than not for the people. The right is for themselves.
The left is good, the right is bad. That is an undeniable fact. Look at social security. The right wants it gone and NO ONE ELSE DOES, not even the moderate right, which is the old people in this country (the like really old, not the dumb ass I am 49-69 old, but the 70+ retired old, you know the ones that live on social security).
What does the right wanna do? Give it away to wall street to rape for the tiny bit of money it has left. ing insanity. AND YOU SUPPORT THIS KEVIN. YOU SUPPORT OLD PEOPLE DYING IN THE STREETS OR WORKING TILL THE GRAVE. WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT? :conf: ITS ING SICK. You are disgusting. |
Conspiring FOR the people... YEAH! The liberal media elites give a giant about "the people". You are so ing demented. Only children talk in absolutes. "The right is bad and the left is good. That is an undeniable fact". :stongue:
Jesus Christ, read what you just wrote. The right wants social security gone? LMAO. You make Alan Grayson look like the voice of reason. I can't even argue with you about this anymore... you've become a caricature of yourself.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
The first one especially has a look of something that has been taken out of context and presented as something far more damaging as the author of said quote intended. |
Well it wasn't. You read it verbatim. Grasp straws more desperately please.
| quote: | Comenting what it says in the second...are they wrong. The right wing media tried to make a non story such as one delusional priest into a major scandal.
The whole point of the wright madia coverage was to make the white people scared of the big bad black obama and his strange waya, so if the alleged left wing conspiracy wanted to point out the obvious...well good for them, though they should have done a better job at it. |
The Wright story was important because nobody in the media was vetting Obama. It was all rainbows and unicorns, no questions asked. The man sat for 20 ing years in front of a hardcore racist preacher who blasted Hillary for being of white privilege, talking about "not god bless america, god damn america!", calling this country the US of KKK-A, and saying we got what we deserved on 9/11. That's not a ing story??? Obama said this man was his spiritual advisor! Naturally, people wanted and had the right to know, is their potential president aligned with such beliefs too- he's been listening to this kind of every Sunday for 20 years! You read the quote for yourself from Spencer Ackerman on how to scheme with the other JournoListers by making up bull racist accusations to deflect the story rather than report objectively; they were fuming mad that George Stephanopolous (Democrat) asked Obama, "Do you love your country as much as Rev. Wright?" That is when Ackerman's idea began and he enlisted his fellow lefties to attack in the manner they did. I didn't make this up man. He clearly said "accuse a prominent conservative... Fred Barnes, Karl Rove.. anybody" and turn the conversation that direction. Your defense of this is insane. My god.
| quote: | Which bring me to quote number three. I dont know much about this story as i had other things to worry about for the past few weeks than american politics, but from what i know i can sum it up in three words. Staying on message.
Dont act like they did such a terrible and unprecedented thing, again the right wing media has been keeping their talking points straight for years, except that they get them straight from the gop and in this case it took a reporter to try and round up the left leaning pople to stay focused. |
You're trying to spin yarns about a right wing media conspiracy. Then you say it's ok for someone on the left, a former Civil Rights Chairperson no less, to flat out ADMIT that the strategy of falsely painting people as racists is cool because it deflects the conversation from the real issues of joblessness. Dude you are a hypocrite extrodinaire. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
You two are as bad as each other. Just bring out the octagon and settle it like men, then STFU.
Also, I always find it fascinating when the rabid right accuse privately-owned media corporations of being communist sympathisers. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
You two are as bad as each other. Just bring out the octagon and settle it like men, then STFU.
Also, I always find it fascinating when the rabid right accuse privately-owned media corporations of being communist sympathisers. |
Hey! I'm a lover, not a fighter. :mad: |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Hey! I'm a lover, not a fighter. :mad: |
These possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Paul, for example, loves fights :D |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| Well then, it can be the octagon of arse-ing if you want. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Well then, it can be the octagon of arse-ing if you want. |
I uhhhh... I'll pass on that one. :nervous: |
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| ModernNosferatu |
Can I join you The17sss to Seattle to meet Nou? He loves personal attacks. I posted a douche-ish Thread about my Grandma along time ago and he basically cut me down. Now a little fun here and there are ok but if he is as old as he says then his parents must be really old (if this is a fact) then he should have consideration.
I won't punch you either Nou.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...52#post10577952 |
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