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Best idea ever: Muslim gay bar possibly opening next to Ground Zero mosque (pg. 37)
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I think you also might be a bit retarded too. :rolleyes:
CNN has no bias, its pretty lame in fact. MSNBC is as bias as Fox News is. They are pretty equal. Talk radio is very right most of the time, and NPR is to the left (but pretty centrist over all).
To say that the media as a whole is to the left is insane. |
I'd agree with this.
CNN is pretty central and boring, though I like Anderson Cooper. MSNBC is very left. Fox News is very right. Talk radio is mostly very right. NPR is slightly left but mostly central.
Speaking of Anderson Cooper, did anyone see Louie Gohmert yelling at him during an interview? |
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| tubularbills |
lol CNN doesn't even have reporters anymore, it's all "tweet us what you think" or "this is what [insert screen name here] reported from [insert city here]" and it's just some skype interview with some douche on what their opinions are.
i guess AC is ok, though. rick sanchez is a douche because he's not reprorting news either just saying what's on his "list" of things he hates:stongue: |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
The "left-wing" mythology is perpetuated by the right to discredit any story which doesn't confirm their point of view. |
I've gathered that in the past, from the amusing way conservative Americans constantly accuse me of being blinded by left wing media outlets I don't have any exposure to. It's as though it's their gag reflex to uncomfortable information. It's also worth noting that out of the UK media I mostly rely on The Times, which is a centre-right newspaper.
Generally in a political debate the conservatives assume I'm left wing and the liberals assume I'm right wing. It's one of the reasons I don't really take part in political debate beyond occasionally flaming bunk logic. People like Kevin are so utterly and unquestioningly biased towards one political ideology they seem unable to see the world outside of left/right binaries. |
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| Marcus Summers |
| i've seen so many muslims here that are gay. it's quite unnerving, really. Seeing gay white folks is far more acceptable. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
lol CNN doesn't even have reporters anymore, it's all "tweet us what you think" or "this is what [insert screen name here] reported from [insert city here]" and it's just some skype interview with some douche on what their opinions are.
i guess AC is ok, though. rick sanchez is a douche because he's not reprorting news either just saying what's on his "list" of things he hates:stongue: |
Anderson Cooper definitely has his moments of beautiful clarity but they are far too short, sprinkled between two-minute commercial blocks, every four to seven minutes. The pinnacle of CNN's content rests between him and Fareed Zakaria (Dr. Sanjay Gupta's alright but a bit hyper-focused focused on medicine), who only has an hour a week but does more with that hour than the remaining balance of CNN's reporters do in the entire week.
Sanchez is more of the host of an interactive chat room than a news anchor. He is mediocre and droll comic relief, at best. The deference paid to Twitter users is unbelievable given that it seems to violate a number of journalism's ethical standards as it creates a feedback loop for which a story's validity is weighed, not by actual merit, but by the number of tweets it garners.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've gathered that in the past, from the amusing way conservative Americans constantly accuse me of being blinded by left wing media outlets I don't have any exposure to. |
Amusing is an apt word for it. Interpretations from pundits is the source of much fodder for Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart, who regularly eviscerate the monstrously ridiculous narratives put forth on the twenty-four hour news channels. For example, the debate about illegal immigration in this country, having well over twenty years to ferment and mature in this country, has recently seen the introduction of two concepts so ridiculous that their very mention ought to make one giggle.
Anchor babies is one, to which the principal of the 14th Amendment (anyone born in this country is guaranteed citizenship) is pointed out as a weakness of our immigration policy because, allegedly, couples sneak into this country to obtain birthright citizenship which entitles the couples to stay (they don't and it does not - there are a number of bureaucratic tape loops they have to jump through first and it can and does take years). Terror babies comes behind that with all of the same fictional mechanism, only this time the strategy is to create sleeper terror cells, consisting of US citizens, rather than the simple duplicity of gaming the system for simply obtaining ordinary citizenship. For all intents and purposes, it really does seem, sometimes, like one is living in a Peter Sellers movie.
I've had conversations with people who seem apparently intelligent but when they open their mouths to speak about a topic, no matter which end of the political spectrum they consider themselves, something truly idiotic is issued. Anchor and Terror babies are just two examples - the Mosque at Ground Zero being one, as well - which highlight just how utterly ludicrous dialogue has become. In a sense, many Americans have been relegated to high-functioning, mentally ill, developmentally disabled people.
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus Summers
i've seen so many muslims here that are gay. it's quite unnerving, really. Seeing gay white folks is far more acceptable. |
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...source=proglist
Personally, I think you're seeing the effects of just how repressed that society has become and that repression has yielded a good deal of sexual immaturity along with a number of perversions. If you want to experience the full scope of creeped out click on the link, above. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The "Left Wing Media" is the big lie the republican party has been using for the last 20 years to discredit anything they disagree with and to get away with . |
JournoList. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The "Left Wing Media" is the big lie the republican party has been using for the last 20 years to discredit anything they disagree with and to get away with . |
I'd agree that the right has totally overblown it and manipulated the concept of the "left wing media", but I still do think there is a slight left bias there overall (Fox and most talk radio excluded of course) |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
I kind of think that in a roundabout way, this has a lot to do with the fact that most every (excepting just a few, to be clear) Muslim-run government in the world is a piece of . I don't believe at all this has much to do with the Koran per se, as it's a fantastic piece of literature along with numerous other classical Islamic texts and myths, but with the sort of cultural byproduct of Bedouin progressive states and their tendency toward relative oligarchies/theocracies.
Don't get me wrong, it's completely up for debate as to whether or not the US is a "christian" country, run by its own power sect of Christian hegemons, and the entire west as well- but at least there is an argument there; Whereas in the Muslim world, there is little doubt that many countries are completely ruled by their fanatical devotion to their religion. I am not saying this is an innately bad thing, either - it is a thing, and in my own opinion, of the same breath as all forms of human avarice and conservativism, the very same ones that would impel the US to muck around with their dealings while shaking their hands for oil deals. But it must be understood that on a global level, and to a world apart from the west that expressly does not divorce church and state, what does a mosque represent? |
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| The17sss |
There is no question the media swings left. NO QUESTION. Let me give Nou a small example of CNN's "unbiased" reporting:
August 3rd, Obama hit a new low in approval ratings in the Gallup poll at 41%. The lowest ever for a president this early in his presidency. The word from CNN (and all other mainstream media outlets): silence.
March 13th, 2006. CNN reporting their "lead story" before/after each commerical break:
| quote: | (Wolf Blitzer) It's 4 p.m. here in Washington. So you're getting the first look right now at our brand-new poll. The president's job approval rating has taken a downward turn again, falling to only 36%.
4:30 p.m.- 36%. This represents his lowest rating ever in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.
4:35 p.m.- The president's poll numbers are pretty bad, pretty awful right now, rock bottom as far as the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.
4:40 p.m.- The president's Iraq problem and his new low point in the polls.
4:45 p.m.- His approval and policies now are at new lows.
4:50 p.m.- The president's job approval number in this new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, rock bottom, the lowest it's ever been.
5:00 p.m.- It's 5 p.m. here in Washington where President Bush takes a beating in our latest poll. His approval rating at a low ebb.
5:30 p.m.- Our latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll just out in the past hour shows the president at an all-time low.
6:00 p.m.- His job approval rating at a new low- 36%.
6:30 p.m.- That's rock bottom as far as our poll is concerned.
7:00 p.m.- It's 7 p.m. here in Washington. The war in Iraq comes home to roost for President Bush. Our latest poll numbers showing his approval rating at a new low.
7:30 p.m.- Also: President Bush hits a new low in the polls.
8:00 p.m.- Now back to our lead story: President Bush's approval rating now at an all-time low.
8:30 p.m.- As we noted, a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows his job approval rating at a new low.
9:00 p.m.- President Bush's approval rating at a new low, 36% |
:stongue: Unbiased! |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Religion is used to placate the masses towards their government. You could call jihadist actions on the Arabian peninsula part of a revolutionary or freedom fighters movement from an oppressive state. Sadly they are not really looking to replace it with anything much better.
You can also look at the institution of Christianity being backed heavily in the 1950s as a ward against communism. While never being super overt, the US government supported the ideas of a clean christian ideal nation as a defense against communism.
Basically, religion is used as an excuse or a distraction to keep power or to ward off competition to power. The Europeans got over this in the 19th century, the US is struggling with the end game in the 21st century, and the Islamic world hasn't even started (and where they have made attempts, they just wrap it in more religion, because its all a power game there still with limited players). |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
There is no question the media swings left. NO QUESTION. Let me give Nou a small example of CNN's "unbiased" reporting:
August 3rd, Obama hit a new low in approval ratings in the Gallup poll at 41%. The lowest ever for a president this early in his presidency. The word from CNN (and all other mainstream media outlets): silence.
March 13th, 2006. CNN reporting their "lead story" before/after each commerical break:
:stongue: Unbiased! |
Wow I just read the quote and not any of your post (because you are stupid) and I thought they were talking about Obama, cause thats the same I hear on CNN about Obama. |
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| leph555 |
lol at their faces
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