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Occupy Toronto (pg. 46)
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Yea everyone says that but they never seem to offer any better suggestions. If these weren't peaceful protests then you'd all be crying about how barbaric these people are and how they should be locked up for the violence they're creating. So they go protest peacefully, in a civilized manner, and you're complaining about how "sitting in a park with cardboard punchlines" ain't solving anything. Either way you'd be criticizing and complaining. |
shouldn't there be more than 2 extremes you outline above? violent protests would have been rounded up by the city and police even faster, IMO, but I'm not entirely sure their message would have been less clear than the campers' one - not that I support violence in any way!
like I said, I don't think anything of what they're doing will do much to stop the corporate & political momentum - for starters they do need to be more organized and target specific problems in a more clear manner, not the mambo-jambo of "I protest this and that and 100 more things, and at the end of the day I just want more money" |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
not the mambo-jambo of "I protest this and that and 100 more things, and at the end of the day I just want more money" |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
How much of your "taxes" do you think these protesters "wasted"??
So much hate towards people that want to bring in accountability and responsibility to the corporate world...1 question: where are you in all the discussions where politicians are wasting millions of our taxes? Or when corporations abuse the system and pay no taxes? (or better yet: up the economy to the point that more of the government budget it put towards public services such as welfare because there's a sudden spike in the need for it?) |
all that time they wasted protesting, they could have been creating tax revenue to reduce our deficit.
what about the responsibility of millions of americans living beyond their means and defaulting on their mortgages? Who's picking up that tab? The working people who arent protesting.
You do realize that no one forces you to get a credit card
no one forces you to get a mortgage
no one forces you to buy fancy hipster glasses..
it's all a matter of choice and complaining that 99% are poorer than the 1 % is bull. you want reform? make a gameplan; not a shantee town.
all this bull time wasted and nothing came out of it except wasted potential tax revenue and expenses for cleanup, and a death (if not more than one, im not sure).
and before you go about saying that corporations evade taxes; do your homework. Who do you think is responsible for the majority of tax revenue?
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
you want reform? make a gameplan |
could a "gameplan" not be born out of the protests? |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
all that time they wasted protesting, they could have been creating tax revenue to reduce our deficit.
what about the responsibility of millions of americans living beyond their means and defaulting on their mortgages? Who's picking up that tab? The working people who arent protesting.
You do realize that no one forces you to get a credit card
no one forces you to get a mortgage
no one forces you to buy fancy hipster glasses..
it's all a matter of choice and complaining that 99% are poorer than the 1 % is bull. you want reform? make a gameplan; not a shantee town.
all this bull time wasted and nothing came out of it except wasted potential tax revenue and expenses for cleanup, and a death (if not more than one, im not sure).
and before you go about saying that corporations evade taxes; do your homework. Who do you think is responsible for the majority of tax revenue?
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holy rant! :nervous:
Jon - I wanna smack you now :mad: |
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| LightsOut |
100,000+ people marching on Queens Park is a protest.
40 squatters in a park is a nuisance.
*prepares for backlash* :thepirate |
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| GGM |
$1,100,000,000+ g20 summit = no big deal
$3,000,000 (high side) occupy protest = omg mofos wasting taxpayer money! |
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| LightsOut |
^^^
haha so true |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
could a "gameplan" not be born out of the protests? |
you would think they had enough time to generate one no? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Yea everyone says that but they never seem to offer any better suggestions. |
If they want to bring around change then they need to work from the inside. If people really cared about this issue then they would find a leader and organize a political party to work from the inside. If the so called 99% follow this party then they should win an election by a landslide.
All this has done is bring awareness to an issue that pretty much anyone with half a brain already knew about. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
$1,100,000,000+ g20 summit = no big deal
$3,000,000 (high side) occupy protest = omg mofos wasting taxpayer money! |
I was just thinking the same thing.
However the response will just be: the g20 was in the interests of the people from our government.
Occupy and protesting in general is a waste of time and accomplishes nothing.
As for "not getting a credit card", not getting a cell phone, etc etc, you know how hard it is to live like that?
You need a credit card to get a decent mobile phone plan, you need credit history to purchase a house unless you plan on renting for your entire life which some people do.
I'm not saying have 5 CCs or a crazy house you can't afford but being somewhere in the middle, what's wrong with that? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Occupy and protesting in general is a waste of time and accomplishes nothing.
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That is the problem right there with our society nowadays. We have all forgotten how powerful protesting really is.
Look at the history of protesting world wide. It was mainly due to people protesting in the Middle East that changed the regimes. One of the main reasons why we have the freedom and civil rights that we all enjoy today is due to previous generations protesting and fighting for what they believed in.
This generation today doesn't really understand the concept of protesting unfortunately... |
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