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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Yea because corporate greed running amok and holding the economy and people's jobs hostage is NOT a valid reason :rolleyes:
Dude it's not "jumping to conclusions"; it's pretty much obvious fact if you've been following the issue from Day 1. Rogers/Bell wanted to introduced UBB (which you unsurprisingly supported if I remember correctly); people petitioned it; and now the CRTC made it's decision to not allow it. It doesn't get any simpler than that. Had it not reached the scale that it did in those first 2-3 weeks the media wouldn't have taken notice of it and the decision would pass in favour of Rogers/Bell quietly. |
As the article read Day 1 Rogers/Bell wanted to introduce UBB; harper says I don't think so you better revisit it; and now the CRTC made it's decision. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
As the article read Day 1 Rogers/Bell wanted to introduce UBB; harper says I don't think so you better revisit it; and now the CRTC made it's decision. |
The way it happened:
1) UBB idea was introduced;
2) People petitioned/protested the hell out of it;
3) Harper ordered CRTC to review it;
This all happened in a matter of weeks.
4) CRTC made its decision yesterday that UBB won't be introduced. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
all that time they wasted protesting, they could have been creating tax revenue to reduce our deficit.
what about the responsibility of millions of americans living beyond their means and defaulting on their mortgages? Who's picking up that tab? The working people who arent protesting.
You do realize that no one forces you to get a credit card
no one forces you to get a mortgage
no one forces you to buy fancy hipster glasses..
it's all a matter of choice and complaining that 99% are poorer than the 1 % is bull. you want reform? make a gameplan; not a shantee town.
all this bull time wasted and nothing came out of it except wasted potential tax revenue and expenses for cleanup, and a death (if not more than one, im not sure).
and before you go about saying that corporations evade taxes; do your homework. Who do you think is responsible for the majority of tax revenue?
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Your logic is akin to this:
-Gangs start shooting eachother on the street
-Innocent bystander gets shot and killed
-"Well the innocent bystander shouldn't have been standing there in the first place. It's not the gangs fault if the bullets fly into his/her head when they're out there doing what gangs are supposed to be doing. These innocents should be out there trying to fix the gang problem by something something something" |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Isn't that the case with any law before a court?
Law is created, somebody 'breaks' law, and it is challenged in court because the definition was loose enough for somebody to take offence to its application. The judge is the tie break. |
True enough. I just didn't know how to articulate a response for my Dad who is totally enraged that they weren't booted.
Guys, can we NOT make this thread about the CRTC ruling? |
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| Orko |
Sorry Skipper, we are done. Just wanted to show that we can/should protest, when we want, as it does work.
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
because people from those societies have valid and much more important issues to protest about - and they should!
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Who are you to decide what a "valid" protest or cause is for somebody else?
What is the saying? I don't agree with what you are saying, but I agree with your right to say it...
I think that applies fully in this case. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Sorry Skipper, we are done. Just wanted to show that we can/should protest, when we want, as it does work.
Who are you to decide what a "valid" protest or cause is for somebody else?
What is the saying? I don't agree with what you are saying, but I agree with your right to say it...
I think that applies fully in this case. |
cos if you're telling me you're protesting cos of your OSAP debt (hypothetically speaking), I'm not gonna support you or anyone else for that matter
fighting for basis rights, which is what people in the middle East are/were doing is entirely different story
if you don't see it, than that's a problem.
Chem already stated correctly - issues in NA are from issues in the Middle East |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Guys, can we NOT make this thread about the CRTC ruling? |
it's interlude did serve as a great example |
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| jon jon |
lol funkycrew vs #ows
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Who are you to decide what a "valid" protest or cause is for somebody else?
What is the saying? I don't agree with what you are saying, but I agree with your right to say it...
I think that applies fully in this case. |
totally! |
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| LightsOut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
What is the saying? I don't agree with what you are saying, but I agree with your right to say it...
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I fully agree with this. Let them protest all they want. |
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| spitty |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
because people from those societies have valid and much more important issues to protest about - and they should!
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How do you not see that it is all connected? The corporations that are granted too much power here and in the states are the same ones that are destroying communities, cultures and environments all around the world. And we have a greater ability to fight them here. And frankly, its our moral obligation. I am a human before I am a Canadian. It doesn't matter where I live. I should be fighting to fix the wrongs. And you spend your energy, all of your indignation on a handful of people who believe we need to right these wrongs? What a waste of your brain.
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
We have many issues in this country facing all of us today but the general populations just doesn't seem to care much at this point but I promise you that will change. Sure every country has its own issues but at this point we all have a common problem and that is the economy and no matter how much we like to tell the world that we are better than them it is just the matter of time before we start feeling the pressure here too.
Our economy today is all connected around the world and if one goes down everyone else will feel it as well. Our banking system also DID get bailed out not as much as the American banks but they sure did get lots of money out of our pockets.
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| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I believe the reason most of the population here not caring and sleeping and is because the issues around the world today hasn't really hit home yet and they have the whole attitude of "well none of this concerns me so why bother".
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I agree. Its like people cannot see beyond their own community or country. |
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