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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
God forbid I actually have some clear and concise ideas.
Since when does discussing stuff on these forums get so personal anyways?
No wonder i dont come here much anymore |
You don't come here much anymore because everytime you do, it's only to proffer some of your narrow-minded, save-my-own-skin rhetoric - and whenever this happens, someone with a modicum of awareness and intelligence eventually comes on to refute your asinine claims, and you don't like having your myopic worldview challenged in any way. |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
care to elaborate? |
dunno... once again the poor are mad at the rich? |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
dunno... once again the poor are mad at the rich? |
doesnt look that way to me. |
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| jon jon |
| my bad, I must be imagining this whole thread |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
very true...if they really wanted to make a point they would boycott product by these greedy companies. |
Agreed. You look at any of the pictures from the protests and there are iphones, blackberries, nike windbreakers, bla bla bla...if you REALLY want to stop lining the pockets of executives, STOP BUYING.
If the goal is merely awareness, then I can get behind that. I have certainly read more, listened more, and thought more about the issue than I would have otherwise. But the goal is not awareness, the goal is "give me a bigger slice of the pie." They say they will be out there for "as long as it takes." That sounds like there's an outcome they are waiting for.
The irony of the timing between this movement and Steve Jobs' death is not lost on me - Steve Jobs hoarded his wealth like few other executives. That wealth came from cheap labor, consumption of natural resources and mass hysteria over apple products, much of which came from the 99% that is now complaining about the very type of corporate greed that he embodied. Furthermore, they then mourned his death, claiming the world had lost such an important visionary! |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
They say they will be out there for "as long as it takes." That sounds like there's an outcome they are waiting for. |
They don't know what they are waiting for. |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
very true...if they really wanted to make a point they would boycott product by these greedy companies. |
what if while protesting and sharing ideas, they come to this conclusion and act on it? |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
so what if while protesting and sharing ideas, they come to this conclusion and act on it? |
They won't. Giving up consumerism would be far too of an inconvenience on their lives. Way easier to ask other people for the change. |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
The irony of the timing between this movement and Steve Jobs' death is not lost on me - Steve Jobs hoarded his wealth like few other executives. That wealth came from cheap labor, consumption of natural resources and mass hysteria over apple products, much of which came from the 99% that is now complaining about the very type of corporate greed that he embodied. Furthermore, they then mourned his death, claiming the world had lost such an important visionary! |
true! (tho I think you're generalizing millions of peeps) |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
They won't. Giving up consumerism would be far too of an inconvenience on their lives. Way easier to ask other people for the change. |
yes yes, I'm not saying abandon consumerism outright... I'm just making a point about protesting and how ideas are shaped/formed there... |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
true! (tho I think you're generalizing millions of peeps) |
Yes I am, but I don't think I'm off base. At least when I look at my friends supporting this movement, half of them post their gripes about corporate greed from their iphones, lol. Oh, and RIP Steve Jobs. |
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| Western Democracy = Capitalism = Consumerism |
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