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TOTA Mobile/Wireless/Celluar/VOIP Thread (pg. 71)
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| Cyrus King |
The CRTC and Ted Rogers should die already.
I think this country really sucks with thier "Lets make Canadian Wireless companies huge" by oligopolizing it.
I wish T-Mobile and AT&T or Vodafone came here to DESTROY that old ing fart
I REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAALLLLLLLY HATE ROGERS |
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| dEsidEL |
could Apple actually help Canada finally start to shed the unenviable reputation of having some of the highest consumer data rates in the developed world.. ?
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Wireless data rates could fall after iPhone launch
June 16, 2008
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter
With the data-hungry iPhone on its way to Canada, Rogers COO Nadir Mohamed suggested that wireless rates at the cable giant could finally be set to fall.
Mohamed said that wireless data pricing will “evolve” as Rogers subscribers begin using their phones for more than making voice calls - a trend expected to gain traction once Apple Inc.’s iPhone is made available to Canadians through Rogers on July 11.
The device is essentially an iPod, cellphone and portable Internet browser rolled into one and makes extensive use of data-intensive applications such as downloads and mobile Web browsing.
“You will see more value in our pricing as we go forward,” Mohamed said today at a telecom conference in Toronto.
Rogers and other Canadian wireless operators have been criticized for charging subscribers some of the highest data rates in the developed world.
There had been speculation that high prices at Rogers slowed iPhone negotiations with Apple, which launched the device in the United States nearly one year ago.
Rogers, however, has said its current wireless pricing model had nothing to do with the iPhone’s delayed Canadian launch.
While Rogers has yet to reveal how much it will cost Canadians to own an iPhone, executives have said they are not fans of unlimited plans such as those offered with the iPhone in the U.S. by AT&T Inc.
High prices were among the reasons cited by Industry Minister Jim Prentice for the federal government’s plan to encourage competition in the sector by setting aside wireless spectrum for industry entrants in an auction that is currently underway.
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http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/444119
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| malek |
I called Fido yesterday, no plans available, nothing they can say. THERE WILL be special plans to the iPhone.
The phone will be available in stores on july 11th, orders on fido.ca will be taken starting july 11th for a delivery a few days after.
You can use your fido dollars on that 199$-299$ price.
If I wanted to screw people and were fido or rogers, i would force people to sign a specific plan made public that same day, for three year, and would be the only way to get the iphone. Hopefully no one reads my posts here. |
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| Chris Allen |
Apple requires a data plan to be available with competitive prices and unlimited usage or else they would not agree to moving to the carrier. This is one of many reasons it's taken so long for Canada to get the iPhone, so I guess Rogers has finally buckled under the pressure to a certain extent.
It will be interesting to see just how much, but I know we won't have plans as good as the US or EU anytime soon. |
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| malek |
| I read that its not the case anymore with the iphone 2. There might be no unlimited plan afterall. |
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| malek |
Apple's New Business Model is AT&T's Old Business Model
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When Apple first released the iPhone, it was supposedly the first phone with a new business model: Apple assumed the device was so desired, that carriers would kick back a proportion of their monthly data revenues. Carriers, on their parts, thought it was so desired that they wouldn't have to subsidize it. Consumers would be allowed to activate it at home, avoiding lines at the cell phone store.
Whoops.
With the iPhone 3G, it's back to the old ways. AT&T is treating this as a standard, run of the mill smart phone. You'll have to activate it at the store. You'll have to get it with a two-year contract. You'll pay for the same data plans that Windows Mobile owners pay for. And AT&T will subsidize -- is subsidizing -- the phone.
AT&T is taking an immediate financial hit from this; they now need to pay big subsidies up front, which they'll make back over the course of two year contracts. But the real losers, sadly, are consumers who were hoping for cell phone business models that weren't dependent on exclusivity and lock-ins. If AT&T is dependent on recouping subsidies over the course of a two year contract, you bet they're going to get a lot tougher on people trying to unlock iPhones. And they'll run out their whole rumored five year exclusivity deal.
A more interesting international lesson will play out over the next few months. One of the reasons Apple wasn't able to get more partners for the original iPhone was that Apple demanded a particular business model, with exclusivity, major revenue sharing, and affordable unlimited data plans. They seem to have gotten a lot more flexible.
That may mean unlocked, prepaid iPhones in Italy, iPhones with competing carriers in Asia, and, of course, $9,000 a month data plans on Rogers in Canada. (Rim shot please!)
http://www.gearlog.com/2008/06/appl..._model_is_a.php |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chris Allen
Apple requires a data plan to be available with competitive prices and unlimited usage or else they would not agree to moving to the carrier. This is one of many reasons it's taken so long for Canada to get the iPhone, so I guess Rogers has finally buckled under the pressure to a certain extent.
It will be interesting to see just how much, but I know we won't have plans as good as the US or EU anytime soon. |
That is what I thought as well, but apparently I read that in Ireland, they do not have an unlimited option.
They have 1GB for $20/month or something like that.
So while it isn't 'unlimited' it still is quite a bit.
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| dEsidEL |
LOL it's funny because it's true
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| VERTiG0 |
| I could probably go through 1GB in a day |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
I could probably go through 1GB in a day |
same here...
but i don't we are the *average* consumer...
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| VERTiG0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
same here...
but i don't we are the *average* consumer...
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If we were the average consumer, Rogers et all would be out of business in six point seven seconds. |
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| magikb |
did anyone here know that Rogers put their plan cancellation up to 400$ max??
I had to call them the other day as they charged me almost 100$ for txt msgs (when I have a 2500 txt plan) so I asked about this since I am thinking about changing providers. I think this is ridiculous and how do they notify? In the smallest print ever on your statement??
I HATE ROGERS!!! lol
/end of rant. |
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