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Kosovo - Independent Coutry...WTF?!?! (pg. 11)
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| thesauce23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SPANIARD
You know, there is a political forum :D |
yea its for savages:toothless |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by zokissima
As a general question, for those that have stated the idea of "SELF-DETERMINATION", hypothetically, what if British Columbia were to undergo an even larger influx of Asian immigrants over the next few years? What if they became the majority? What if, hypothetically again, in two generations they decided to declare independance...? |
at this rate, its not "IF", but "WHEN".
You can thank Lord Durham for that :p |
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| DJ Robben |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
HOLLER!
GUYS we clearly have a boy here who watches the news.
Maybe even doesn't need the HD stimulus and READS articles online.
Lets all follow his example and deem ourselves fit to judge things that we know absolutely nothing about.
You should be ashamed of yourself. I think you're ing disgusting. |
Wow, a little on the i've just sat on a hand grenade side isn't it?.
He's stating his opinion, and you call him disgusting?
Perhaps everyone can take a step back, and re-think this whole thing. and when heads have cooled down you can all re-enter the argument as adults.
Also,
i don't claim to know anything about this whole ordeal. Truthfully, i've never been to serbia, haven't really paid much attention to the region in a long long time.
But i have lived in a country just pluck full of violence and hate crimes.
So before you go off on the handle at me saying " You dont' know " or whatever else. Believe me, i have. and it's not too fun :). |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
evil tree dont get me wrong, im not trying to say my side was innocent. war is war, nasty things go down in war. but hunting children like a ing animals is not war. wouldnt you agree?? |
of course i agree.
but that isn't the majority of the issue we're discussing here... i think...
PS: RJ, dude. What's up with you man? Your posts need to be more clear, esp. in sensitive thread like this |
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| Special K |
yes tito brought alot of "stability" to the region
- ummmm there were more political prisoners in prison in the former yugoslavia than in all of the eastern bloc countries combined.
- there were large scale massacres of non-communist croatians as well as anti-communists of other ethnic groups and if you were a catholic living in the former yugoslavia then life wasnt pretty for you.
good times. |
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| jsibilin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Special K
yes tito brought alot of "stability" to the region
- ummmm there were more political prisoners in prison in the former yugoslavia than in all of the eastern bloc countries combined.
- there were large scale massacres of non-communist croatians as well as anti-communists of other ethnic groups and if you were a catholic living in the former yugoslavia then life wasnt pretty for you.
good times. |
my grandfather was one of those non-communists croations and he was lucky enough to escape and fled to canada!
so Tito was a bad guy?? hrmm,, i need to brush up on my history ! |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by thesauce23
yea its for savages |
LOL! |
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| zokissima |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
You're quite right that I don't regard historical or cultural claims as valid. If it was such a case, every cultural group would have claims all over the world, based upon historical and cultural association. It just doesn't make sense.
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I understand what you mean exactly. But I do not think that if a certain people or culture hold on to a specific land for the duration of their existence that they lose claim to that land...
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As a Canadian patriot, I was really ticked at the issue of Quebec separatism. Then I learned to understand their point of view, but more logically, that if a group of people living in certain area really doesn't want to part of your country, you really can't do much to keep them, short of killing them all. You can reason with them, you can offer incentives, but if these people decide that being independent is the way to go, well, what can you really do, esp. when there are international precedents recognizing self determination leading to independence?
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Yes, but your initial reaction was one of anger, by your own words, thus you have an idea of the anger felt by all Serbs now, and why. If Quebec were to have actually separated? Canada may have found itself in a very different position than one it holds how, and may find itself on the face of some serious social and economic problems further down the road, perhaps not even within our generation. I guess what I'm trying to say is that even if you disregard historical relevance, and stay strictly objective, this is not a good thing for anyone involved. This will only further segregate people, and create even more hatred and ultimately death for everyone involved. Declaring independance just because you happen to be a majority may seem like a 'democratic' movement, but really is just slow murder to the civilians involved, at least in this region, where historical precedent must be considered. |
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| Special K |
| quote: | Originally posted by jsibilin
so Tito was a bad guy?? hrmm,, i need to brush up on my history ! |
it depends on who you ask.
looking at this thread there will be some that have positive things to say about him ... others like me (whos family did not have a nice life under his regime) will have negative things to say about him. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by zokissima
Declaring independance just because you happen to be a majority may seem like a 'democratic' movement, but really is just slow murder to the civilians involved, at least in this region, where historical precedent must be considered. |
:wtf: |
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