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Israel bombs Gaza...again. (pg. 12)
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by HouseGuru
Everyone needs to take responsiblity for their actions and learn to live in peace. |
and if that doesn't work...BLOW THEM ALL UP |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
lol. I question people's views and I'm an instigator?
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no...you questioned the wrong person's views and therefore you are an instigator. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anas Attia
your comment is just so revolting, how am i to show you the true nature of things if you don't even think Palestine excised..lol Show me proof.. |
Perhaps what he meant to say was that there was never an ethnic or religious group or race called the "Palestinians" prior to the current state of Israel being formed. There was a general region called Palestine, but it was occupied by many different groups at many different times.
The "Palestinian", however, is a new invention. Before World War II, the geographical area that is presently Palestine was very sparsely populated and had virtually no agriculture or production at all. Simply put, it was barren before the Israeli settlers fixed it up, and no natives complained when they started to develop the land. In addition, most Palestinians today are actually not historical natives, they are refugees from neighbouring Arab countries like Jordan (who systematically slaughtered them in order to push them into Israeli territory).
There's been an area called Palestine for a while but not a state or nation. It was a generic name, like the "Middle East", and didn't refer to any specific commune or governing authority. As far as we know from recorded history, that area has just been scattered tribal villages or mere swamp hutches, which is exactly why the U.N. thought it would be a swell spot for Israel. Even the religious history, the Qu'ran, doesn't specifically mention a Palestinian people or state (to my knowledge, anyway).
There may or may not have been one or more states of Israel on that land; it doesn't really matter. Either way, today's Palestinians have no more historical claim to the land than Israelis do.
If you have it in your mind to ask for proof, then I'm sorry to say that the burden of proof is on you, because it is a logical impossibility to prove the non-existence of a thing. If you truly believe that Palestinians all belong to some ancient close-knit civilization then explain where you know this from.
It's all beside the point anyway because this isn't a land claim, it's holy war. Unfortunately, Israel and most of the western world has a hard time understanding holy war, so they prefer to treat it as a land claim. That mentality may be convenient but it will never end the war. |
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| Leon |
have you guys caught the tokyo drift yet
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ANAS
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Arabic
Other Scripts: أنس (Arabic)
Means "friendliness" in Arabic. This was the name of one of the Prophet Muhammad's companions. |
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| HouseGuru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anas Attia
this thread. |
Wow this coming from an educated lad. Your no better then those who try and incite the violence. Your attempt to convince people that your people are innocent has failed. I suggest you take a good hard look at yourself and rethink your strategy. Peace should be your ultimate goal not spreading propagand. Like I said there is no innocent party here you both are to blame. Accept that, and work toward learning that regardless of how you have labeled yourselves you are still all humans not animals. Now learn to live in peace. |
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| T_ALI |
| Don't take it personally Anas. I feel ur pain. Just stick to what ur good at; DJing. |
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| T_ALI |
| quote: | Originally posted by Leon
have you guys caught the tokyo drift yet
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ur an |
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| Adam420 |
| a funny one though |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
lol. I question people's views and I'm an instigator?
PS: you forgot about the kosovo one. that one was interesting too |
lol, i was just gonna say that.
i see you still know everything. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
lol, i was just gonna say that.
i see you still know everything. |
just enough to raise some questions.
all my questions aren't answered in this thread to my satisfaction, nor am I convinced by arguments stated in this thread to change my point of view
then again. opinions are like s. everyone has one
also dont quite understand why people are taking this so emotionally and personally. |
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| InfiniteEclipse |
Well when you can't agree on a message board, you can only hope for the best for those experiencing such a life first hand.
...It is about working together. |
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| Anas Attia |
Anyways
Sorry for wasting everyone's time with my so called extreme views, I just feel that nothing I can say is going to be taken seriously here. The discussion is far too shallow, I had hoped we could really delve into the real problems and issues for once.
If anyone is interested in knowing more, or wanting to know how they can help, please PM me. There was a protest a couple days ago that you have missed, but if you'd like to join my friend's (shes helping with it) online petition against the bombings of Gaza follow this link:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_time_f...62018857&v=2606
The petition I believe was only opened yesterday.
I hope you guys can sympathize with the situation a bit, and take it easy with your views. Help stop the occupation. I hope you realize that Israeli war plans are still dropping bombs on civilians as I type this.
Take Care. Have good will. |
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