Originally posted by Shade
It's been done before, don't be surprised.
To address your edit, if you were running a country, would you choose to take a route that ensures your soldiers don't get hurt or would you choose one which is rather high risk? If they're hiding INSIDE the school, the only way to really get rid of them is to break in - you're adding a huge risk for casualties on the Israeli side (and potentially kidnappings which Hamas loves to do).
STOP in giving excuses for the Israeli terrorism against the people of Gaza.THERE IS NOWHERE TO HIDE GET IT? 1.5 million people living in a 350k radius.where the can they hide?
in Israeli apologists never stop with the propagandas. :rolleyes:
Spam
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
If what you say is true factually w the Arab governments refusing at that point to set up a state of palestine, HOW THE HELL can they complain now saying 'oh but we were there first, blah blah blah' when they could have sorted it all out legally/land wise etc before? (especially before it turned into a crazy religious issue...
For the same reason our democratic leaders promise us that they'll fix poverty, stop crime and 'fix our healthcare system for a generation'?
They pay lip-service to the issue for support, then throw money at it or do nothing to actually ensure what they say is carried out.
That excerpt was taken out of the same article Yohan posted in regards to your earlier question about Palestine's early existence.
hardcore trancer
So let me get this right,Israel thinks that somehow after the that the people in Gaza are going through now would want peace after?why the hell would they want to have peace with a bunch of killers?
would you want peace if you see things like this everyday?
(dont clickif you have weak stomach or cant handle the reality of war)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Yohan
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
STOP in giving excuses for the Israeli terrorism against the people of Gaza.THERE IS NOWHERE TO HIDE GET IT? 1.5 million people living in a 350k radius.where the can they hide?
in Israeli apologists never stop with the propagandas. :rolleyes:
doesnt change the fact that Hamas choose to hide in a school, regardless of circumstances.
lacking places to 'hide' is not an excuse to hide in mosque, hospital, school, whatever
life sucks when you're a terrorist, eh?
Yohan
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
So let me get this right,Israel thinks that somehow after the that the people in Gaza are going through now would want peace after?why the hell would they want to have peace with a bunch of killers?
would you want peace if you see things like this everyday?
(dont clickif you have weak stomach or cant handle the reality of war)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Germany and Russia somehow made peace after WW2 and both sides did a lot of ed up in that war
edit: peace as in co existing after the war
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Spam
I hope you're not directing this comment at me. As I'm not trying to point fingers either way. I'm simply trying to understand some foolish decisions as I see them.
Thank you for that video. She actually seems very thoughtful and is good at pin-pointing what Israel does, and has done, wrong on their end. Unfortunately, it doesn't answer my question about why Hamas, and other militants in Palestine continue to try to pick fights with the more powerful nation, instead of direct attempts at peaceful diplomacy.
There's no necessity on Israel's part, they are the more powerful nation, and Palestinian attacks are a nuisance, but thus far, not debilitating. The necessity for peace rests on the Palestinian side. THEY are the ones suffering, that need help, and launching rockets at your oppressor is a fantastic way to become MORE oppressed. It doesn't make sense to me.
im not pointing fingers at you, im not pointing it at anybody.
its just frustrating... a lot of you is just repeating "hamas, hamas, hamas". thats not the real reason why is all this going down.
why is hamas doing what they're doing?? me if i know. maybe they'd rather die than live like that. maybe they want "their" land back. maybe they have lots of balls or, maybe they just crazy. who knows.
but its a bitchass move to blame all this on them. it goes way, way back, before hamas existed.
200 kids killed. thats fair??
gummybear
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
So let me get this right,Israel thinks that somehow after the that the people in Gaza are going through now would want peace after?why the hell would they want to have peace with a bunch of killers?
would you want peace if you see things like this everyday?
(dont clickif you have weak stomach or cant handle the reality of war)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
these people are beinng subjected to this (if you want to know what i mean by "this", click on the link and look at the photos) and you think they are not going to go a little loopy?? i dunno about you but if i had to see people being blown up in front of me...i might turn a little hostile and aggresive..let alone..watching loved ones being blown up and murdered....and people wonder about the mindset of a suicide bomber..such basic psychology...
if i was living in Gaza right now..i would hate the jewish people and their government..i would detest them for what i and my people were going through....there are 1.5 million people in Gaza..imagine all the hate and anger that is being bred...
i'm sure we can all agree that the current situation is only going to make things worse..
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Yohan
doesnt change the fact that Hamas choose to hide in a school, regardless of circumstances.
and it doesnt change the fact that Israel doesn give a flying about innocent civillians loss.
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lacking places to 'hide' is not an excuse to hide in mosque, hospital, school, whatever
Somehow that makes it ok to bomb the living out of the city?
but then again they are all just a bunch of Arabs right?let them die.:rolleyes:
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life sucks when you're a terrorist, eh?
life sucks when you are Israel and you know you cant beat ideology with in bombs.
Spam
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
STOP in giving excuses for the Israeli terrorism against the people of Gaza.THERE IS NOWHERE TO HIDE GET IT? 1.5 million people living in a 350k radius.where the can they hide?
in Israeli apologists never stop with the propagandas. :rolleyes:
I agree 100%. But I would hope that a government that actually cares about their people would make wiser decisions, so as not to give reason for a more powerful military power to start dropping bombs when they know civilian casualties can't be avoided. Hamas, is NOT that government, and now the people they represent have to suffer while Israel takes advantage of their foolishness.
Cyrus King
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Originally posted by Yohan
no ing .
you suffer whenever one of your own dies.
and as for which side suffers more, thats why I added that bit of qualifier at the end
lol. where did the religion bit came from? thanks for trying to twist my words hard
Youre talking about JEWISH people being from that region becuase they are jewish.. and im brining up a parrallel analogy, that being, other religions and how people of other religions are not indegneous to where that religion began
Get it?
UmmiE
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Originally posted by Spam
I agree 100%. But I would hope that a government that actually cares about their people would make wiser decisions, so as not to give reason for a more powerful military power to start dropping bombs when they know civilian casualties can't be avoided. Hamas, is NOT that government, and now the people they represent have to suffer while Israel takes advantage of their foolishness.
Your own people dont agree with what you guys are doing there......actually some have brains on the israeli side(only few)
Enjoy:-
Yohan
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
and it doesnt change the fact that Israel doesn give a flying about innocent civillians loss.
Somehow that makes it ok to bomb the living out of the city?
but then again they are all just a bunch of Arabs right?let them die.:rolleyes:
life sucks when you are Israel and you know you cant beat ideology with in bombs.
again, I do not excuse Israeli actions
but you're trying to portray Hamas like they are innocent of all matters, hence my post
stop trying to divert the wrongs Hamas are doing by pointing finger back at what Israel is doing wrong
