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Israel bombs Gaza...again. (pg. 44)
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UmmiE
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Those regions have been stabilizing to a large degree over the past year or two, so this would be a good thing.

Not that I am advocating for Israel to conquer the whole region; if they're able to eliminate Hamas or at least push them out to the fringe, then the right thing to do would be to return as much territory as they can practically return to the new government.



I will have to disagree because of the fact that....Just because the U.S says its stabalizing doesnt actually mean it is.......they have brought down the place 50 years back if not to stone age......People hate them over there and will do anything to get rid of them.Hamid karzai is puppet of the U.S, people in there know of that and would take him out anytime they get a chance.

Now for the second part of your comment :-

Even if the new govt stands up in there do you think these hardcore militants or hamas will be done...No because its not like a traditional army its a group of people fighting for a cause honestly I wish they both settle this .....but its easier said then done....In reality these people who have lost all their loved ones will keep coming back, revenge is a very bad thing.......I honestly believe this killing eachother will continue even if there was an agreement reached....Do I agree with "NO" .....Hate created due to these attacks on both sides even right now is good enough for them to be fighting for the next 50 yrs.......Which is the actual sad part for both the civilians on both side.
Abercrombie
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Originally posted by Shade
Why didn't this outcry exist when little kids were sent to explode in Israeli cities?


Sadly, Shahid is highly respected no matter what the age.
UmmiE
quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Sadly, Shahid is highly respected no matter what the age.


Wrong.......Just because a few bad people do something that is wrong you cannot blame the whole country or the religion for it.......Its not something that is preached by the actual religion followers(avg joe the plummer muslims) but sadly is only done by the bad apples.
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Shade
You tell me.

It's far from unusual for them to use children as weapons and shields - and further, as media tools.

Why didn't this outcry exist when little kids were sent to explode in Israeli cities?


this is the first time i hear about this and...whoah. that is ed up, that's bad. this sheds new light on many things, at least for me.

but still, thats no excuse for what happened the other day. not taking any sides, im just saying.
Abercrombie
quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
Wrong.......Just because a few bad people do something that is wrong you cannot blame the whole country or the religion for it.......Its not something that is preached by the actual religion followers(avg joe the plummer muslims) but sadly is only done by the bad apples.



Not really... Correct I should have gone into more detail, Shahid is respected amonst the extremists. I never said anything about the whole country or all of the religion, let's not blow what I said up more than what it is. I love Joe the Plummer Muslims, and you know it. I am as Pro-Palestinian as much as I am Pro-Iraeli. I'm Anti-Extremist, and I have clearly stated this countless of times. Shahid (martyrdom) is highly respected amongst the extremists, and sadly Gaza (not all of Palestine) is governed by an extremist group. Therefore Hamas is creating a very bad image for all Joe the Plumber Palestinians.
mikester69
UN halts Gaza aid shipments after Israeli attacks on its staff

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/...el_palestinians

"We've been co-ordinating with them (Israeli forces) and yet our staff continue to be hit and killed."


Well isn't that just great! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Xavier Moriarty
looks like lebanon is jumping in
gummybear
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
looks like lebanon is jumping in


let's hope the U.S jumps and in and tells their friend to stop their before this gets really bad.....:rolleyes:
UmmiE
quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
let's hope the U.S jumps and in and tells their friend to stop their before this gets really bad.....:rolleyes:



Its like telling your own shadow not to follow you LOL
ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
Not really... Correct I should have gone into more detail, Shahid is respected amonst the extremists. I never said anything about the whole country or all of the religion, let's not blow what I said up more than what it is. I love Joe the Plummer Muslims, and you know it. I am as Pro-Palestinian as much as I am Pro-Iraeli. I'm Anti-Extremist, and I have clearly stated this countless of times. Shahid (martyrdom) is highly respected amongst the extremists, and sadly Gaza (not all of Palestine) is governed by an extremist group. Therefore Hamas is creating a very bad image for all Joe the Plumber Palestinians.


Joe the Plumber is going to Isreal as a news reporter.

Yohan
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Originally posted by gummybear
let's hope the U.S jumps and in and tells their friend to stop their before this gets really bad.....:rolleyes:

or someone tell Hezbollah to f off
smuncky
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Joe the Plumber is going to Isreal as a news reporter.


there's finally going to be an unbiased view to this conflict.
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