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Israel bombs Gaza...again. (pg. 68)
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| geroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
T_Ali's posts have provided me with a tremendous amount of epic lulz. What a moron. :stongue: |
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| Vivid Boy |
ISRAEL!!!!!
IN JEWS! |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by T_ALI
I knew it, u r a wuss; u keep avoiding this. Once again, don't talk trash if u can't back it up. |
YOU CALL ME STOOPED?! I KEEL JEW! |
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| Yohan |
Getting back on topic... Interesting article. Dunno how much of it is true or not, but something to think about
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843633.stm
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Gaza ruins beg questions of Hamas
By Quil Lawrence
BBC News, Gaza City
Standing on a newly formed hillside of rubble in the destroyed Jabaliya refugee camp, five young men all claim to be resistance fighters.
"All of Gaza are mujahideen," they said.
But when asked which of them had actually fired a gun in the three week-long battle with Israel, none gave a convincing answer.
And as armed Hamas policemen return to Gaza's street-corners and traffic-lights, many in Gaza are wondering where they were when it came to fighting the Israeli Army.
Hamas still has enough power and influence here that few will criticise the Islamist movement openly.
But when Hamas called for a rally to celebrate what it has been calling a historic victory over the Israelis, the citizens of Gaza voted with their feet - they stayed at home.
In the past Hamas could easily call tens of thousands into the streets, but this time only party stalwarts could look around the devastation and believe this could be victory.
"I think the resistance is strong," said Beithar Ajar, 26, who described himself as a Hamas legal adviser.
"I think the Israeli army is very weak. Very weak."
Sober appraisal
A truck with loudspeakers made a turn around Palestine Square in central Gaza city, playing Hamas battle songs.
A barker standing on the back shouted insults to Israel's government on a microphone.
But relatively few green flags unfurled in the crowd.
CONFLICT IN FIGURES
More than 1,300 Palestinians killed
Thirteen Israelis killed
More than 4,000 buildings destroyed in Gaza, more than 20,000 severely damaged
50,000 Gazans homeless and 400,000 without running water
The march ended in front of the concrete skeleton of the Palestinian Legislative Council building - pulverised by Israeli bombs during the first days of the air assault.
"It's not a problem for us," said Ajar, as a loudspeaker played recordings of machine guns and explosions dubbed over a fiery speech.
"We will overcome the Israeli Army this time and every time in the future," he said.
Hamas supporters claim that many more Israelis died in the three weeks of the war than Tel Aviv's official count of only 13 dead.
Likewise they believe the official Hamas announcement that Israel killed only 48 fighters among over 1,300 dead in Gaza.
But that begs another question: if so few Hamas fighters died, were they really out there fighting?
A man settling in to sleep next to the remnants of his home gave a more sober appraisal.
Yusef, a farmer from Jabaliya, was burning old kitchen cupboards to keep himself warm, as nightfall brought the winter's cold.
Israeli bombs destroyed his house, he said, but they were not the only ones to blame.
"I blame Israel and Hamas both," he said. "I just want to live."
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The last quote is most profound statement in the article.
Palestinians would be angry at the destruction and killings Israel brought, and rightly so. Yet the Hamas, who are supposedly their protectors and defenders of Gaza failed to inflict any serious damage to Israeli forces, which withdrew not because Hamas forced them out, but because Israel wanted to.
So Palestinians being angry at Hamas is also something to note. I really hope Hamas gets the boot out of Gaza. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by T_ALI
How abt we do this face to face or maybe u don't have the balls to do that?
U do this again and I'll ing kill u. I dead serious!!! |
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| UmmiE |
Another good article in the news today:-
One state is the way forward to peace in Mideast: Kadhafi
NEW YORK (AFP) - A combined one-state solution is the best way forward for Israel and the Palestinians to finally put an end to "perpetual war," Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi wrote in The New York Times Thursday.
"The history of Israel/Palestine is not remarkable by regional standards -- a country inhabited by different peoples, with rule passing among many tribes, nations and ethnic groups; a country that has withstood many wars and waves of peoples from all directions. This is why it gets so complicated when members of either party claims the right to assert that it is their land," Kadhafi wrote.
After the surge in deadly violence in Gaza, Kadhafi argued that "everywhere one looks, among the speeches and the desperate diplomacy, there is no real way forward.
"A just and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians is possible, but it lies in the history of the people of this conflicted land, and not in the tired rhetoric of partition and two-state solutions," Kadhafi said.
The Libyan leader argued that a two-state solution inevitably would create an unworkable security threat to Israel, while partitioning the West Bank into Jewish and Arab areas, with buffer zones between them, also would not work.
"Buffer zones symbolize exclusion and breed tension. Israelis and Palestinians have also become increasingly intertwined, economically and politically," Kadhafi wrote, so "the compromise is one state for all, an 'Isratine' that would allow the people in each party to feel that they live in all of the disputed land and they are not deprived of any one part of it."
"Assimilation is already a fact of life in Israel," Kadhafi added, noting that "there are more than one million Muslim Arabs in Israel."
In the latest casualty toll, Gaza medics said the recent Israeli offensive had killed 1,330 people, at least half of them civilians including 437 children. Another 5,450 were wounded, including 1,890 children.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/0901...nflict_us_libya |
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| zoogla |
| T_ALI is the biggest ing stupidass moron piece of that has graced TOTA in a while! :) |
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| T_ALI |
| Before u judge me u should check out what Yohan had to say that provoked such an outburst. |
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| djeso |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
T_ALI is the biggest ing stupidass moron piece of that has graced TOTA in a while! :) |
I had the idea you were one of the nicest people .... WoW that doesn't beat the mom jokes, i think some account suspensions are greatly needed.
There is a death threat? I don't know but posting stuff like that on internet can get you in trouble :conf: |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
Another good article in the news today:-
One state is the way forward to peace in Mideast: Kadhafi
NEW YORK (AFP) - A combined one-state solution is the best way forward for Israel and the Palestinians to finally put an end to "perpetual war," Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi wrote in The New York Times Thursday.
"The history of Israel/Palestine is not remarkable by regional standards -- a country inhabited by different peoples, with rule passing among many tribes, nations and ethnic groups; a country that has withstood many wars and waves of peoples from all directions. This is why it gets so complicated when members of either party claims the right to assert that it is their land," Kadhafi wrote.
After the surge in deadly violence in Gaza, Kadhafi argued that "everywhere one looks, among the speeches and the desperate diplomacy, there is no real way forward.
"A just and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians is possible, but it lies in the history of the people of this conflicted land, and not in the tired rhetoric of partition and two-state solutions," Kadhafi said.
The Libyan leader argued that a two-state solution inevitably would create an unworkable security threat to Israel, while partitioning the West Bank into Jewish and Arab areas, with buffer zones between them, also would not work.
"Buffer zones symbolize exclusion and breed tension. Israelis and Palestinians have also become increasingly intertwined, economically and politically," Kadhafi wrote, so "the compromise is one state for all, an 'Isratine' that would allow the people in each party to feel that they live in all of the disputed land and they are not deprived of any one part of it."
"Assimilation is already a fact of life in Israel," Kadhafi added, noting that "there are more than one million Muslim Arabs in Israel."
In the latest casualty toll, Gaza medics said the recent Israeli offensive had killed 1,330 people, at least half of them civilians including 437 children. Another 5,450 were wounded, including 1,890 children.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/0901...nflict_us_libya |
interesting article, but words of a bit of nutjob dictator are kinda hard to take serious |
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| Abercrombie |
| I smell an abundance of Canadian Criminal Code section 264.1 |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by djeso
I had the idea you were one of the nicest people .... WoW that doesn't beat the mom jokes, i think some account suspensions are greatly needed.
There is a death threat? I don't know but posting stuff like that on internet can get you in trouble :conf: |
if i ever get suspended/...ur dead. |
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