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Israel bombs Gaza...again. (pg. 23)
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| gummybear |
i will be attending the demonstration tomorrow at dundas square..
putting my money where my mouth is ..so to speak.. |
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| Anas Attia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Anas, you can keep posting your clips on and on... people can easily post several from the other side. We know already what goes on. We know your intentions, we know what side you are biased on. Give it a rest. |
Abercrombie , I'm not sure why you keep assuming this discussion is about me? you seem to have nothing to say to me other than I should shut up.
And of course my intentions are to show the other side of the story, and I will do so as I please, again i'm not sure why that's such a crime. Regardless, I post in regards to what it is I am passionate about, and at the moment this issue is on top of my list, as it should be to many who care about world politics.
Finally, I will not give it a rest, as long as I have the power to help in any way I can, I will do so. This thread has surpassed 4000 views, this isn't only about those who are debating, but those creeping away ;)
Also, as gummy bear mentioned there will be a demonstration against the Gaza bombings at Young and Dundas Square, 2pm.
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*WHEN: 2pm on Saturday January 3rd, 2009
*WHERE: Yonge-Dundas Square (buses leave Palestine House 1:15pm sharp)
Join in demonstrating against the latest Israeli assault on the people of Gaza. At least 400 Palestinians have been killed and at least 1600 have been injured in the on-going assault on the Gaza Strip that began on Saturday.
This is the single largest massacre in Gaza since Israel illegally occupied the area in 1967. The numbers of dead are mounting, especially as the already limited medical supplies are running out due to the brutal siege of Gaza since 2005.
While the Western media reports that the raids targeted Hamas 'operatives,' the dead include women, children and men in all areas of life in Gaza. "Operation Cast Lead" has echoes of previous Israeli raids into Gaza that have been characterized by indiscriminate attacks on civilian population centers, mass detentions, violent house demolitions and other forms of collective punishment. Such actions need to be strongly and unconditionally condemned.
This attack comes just days after the so-called 'ceasefire' between Hamas and Israel expired. During this alleged ceasefire, Israel continued to impose its brutal siege on Gaza, restricting the flow of aid, medical supplies, fuel and other necessities of life into the territory. For the past two years Gaza has been undergoing the daily violence of a wide-ranging humanitarian catastrophe triggered by severely reduced access to energy, food, and medicines. In effect, Gaza is the world's largest open air prison. The UN and others in the international community condemned the humanitarian disaster created by Israel's siege during the time of this 'ceasefire'. Israel now claims that this operation is in response to Hamas refusing to renew this sham of a ceasefire. Once again, Israel is imposing collective punishment on the people of Gaza for electing a Hamas government.
Organizers are particularly angered by the Canadian government's on-going support for the Israeli apartheid regime - including the intensification of bilateral military, political and economic links between Canada and Israel. These latest war crimes occurs in the context of official Canadian complicity with and support for Israel's illegal siege and starvation of the civilian population in Gaza.
At this moment, we can only reaffirm our commitment in the strongest possible terms to continue mobilizing to respond to the call by over 170 Palestinian civil society organizations for a comprehensive campaign of boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) to end Israeli Apartheid. As H.E. Father Miguel D'Escoto Brockman, President of the United Nations General Assembly state in a recent speech: "More than twenty years ago we in the United Nations took the lead from civil society when we agreed that sanctions were required to provide a nonviolent means of pressuring South Africa to end its violations. Today, perhaps we in the United Nations should consider
following the lead of a new generation of civil society, who are calling for a similar non-violent campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions to pressure Israel to end its violations."
CONTACT:
Palestine House
[email protected]
Demonstration Organized By:
Palestine House
Canadian Arab Federation
Women in Solidarity with Palestine (WSP)
Not In Our Name (NION): Jewish Voices Opposing Zionism
Muslim Association of Hamilton
International Jewish anti-Zionist Network – Toronto
Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid
Muslim Unity
Toronto Coalition to Stop the War
Independent Jewish Voices
Please send further organizational endorsements to: [email protected]
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Link/Source:Facebook Event
Anyways, Ladies and gents, I rest my case, I have never posted so much on a forum in my life, gotta get back to the rest of it. Cheers to those who have at least taken what I have presented with an open mind.
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| Abercrombie |
AHHHH the truth finally comes out... You lied about having no sides, and there ya go. It's about you because you insulted everyone. Think twice before you start making things personal.
I've been on your side for a long time. I've probably been much more involved in my past that you have. Then I saw what really goes on. I know your type.
Your hidden agenda is being revealed... You keep bowing out of this thread, yet you keep coming back. People can see right through you.
We know your purpose.
You will keep posting and continuing your long-winded excuses until there is no Israel. You do not believe in co-existence (and don't call me a liar), and you're clearly here to be a -disturber hiding behind a veil of innocence.
You clearly deny its existence like I said before, you lie through your teeth about being neutral and such. I liked you as a DJ, but you are revealing another side of you you probably didn't want to reveal.
You came here nowing we are all ill-informed, and you were surprised each time. Each time you were cought, you bowed out and made your exit. When the smoke cleared, you came back. Well I hope you get your wish of your country of Palestine that includes ALL of Israel as well. Your and Hamas's wish will be fulfilled. Will that make you feel better?
Stick to DJing. Good luck on your career. Farewell. |
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| gummybear |
Those are some harsh words AJ..and you know I think ur a super cool dude..
I don't know Anais personally and I don't think you really have a basis for your accusations...but to each his own..
this thread should be closed....there is really no point left to it.. |
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| Dr. Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anas Attia
As I mentioned before, no one is usually allowed to take any video or photographs in Gaza, obviously due to the illegal nature of the Israeli army.
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| quote: | Often, media personal are killed if found taping near gaza.
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Anas' biased view revealed. |
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| T_ALI |
Some Palestinians would have Fatah back in power rather than Hamas, and I agree with them. Hamas started out as and still is a terrorist organization.
The Israel military deserves just as much blame because they're killing innocent people just like Hamas.
Both sides have their thoughts clouded by the soo many family, friends and fellow people that have died around them. So I can understand their outrage and their unwillingness for peace.
However there's still many who still want peace. There are many Israeli Jews who are opposed to what the government is doing and their zionist agenda, just like there many Palestinians who oppose what Hamas is doing.
The sad thing is that there are many whose voice is not even heard and in the end suffer who just wanna live their lives peacefully.
What really pisses me off is when people judge a country/people as a whole just because of the actions of a few bad ones.
There is no good guy or bad guy here. Both sides deserve equal blame!!!
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of this and at one point I might not even care what happens...anyone else??? |
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| gummybear |
| quote: | Originally posted by T_ALI
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of this and at one point I might not even care what happens...anyone else??? |
no..i still care...that's why I'm heading to the rally today...i don't give a about hamas..or the government of israel....i care about the over 400 people that have died..the over 2000 that have been injured..the 75 children and the 21 women that have been murdered... |
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| T_ALI |
Thats really sad. They're probably going to retaliate after this, which in return will spark outrage from Israel.
Both sides have been going at it for years; When is it gonna stop?? |
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| UmmiE |
| Whatever is happening needs to stop asap..........War is always dirty but hey if the right people make the right decisions then things can change.......Right now whats happening is Israel is making people hate them more by the seconds........It would bring nothing but bad things for them in the future not like they havent had it in the past but this time.....Its something thats making them look more bad then the hamas or Palestinians combined together people are protesting all over the world even here in toronto......This needs to stop asap. |
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| Adam420 |
This thread failed so long ago, I haven't bothered posting any additional replies. I really don't need anybody telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about. Because I know very well that I do, I just don't necessarily want to discuss certain things and I also have no patience to write paragraphs and paragraphs about the subject.
Just like the conflict itself, this thread has become a cycle with no end. No point giving an opinion if the next person will come out and say that his opinion is better. |
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