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Workin Out Thread (pg. 64)
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| quote: | Originally posted by Ygrene
I got that lean ONCE. I did it the summer before my senior year in college. My diet all summer long was tuna, chicken, oatmeal, and protein shakes. I looked great but felt like . Well, maybe not like but my strength levels were so low it was ridiculous. I was always getting comments at the gym: "That's all you can lift?? Man, you look alot stronger than that!" :rolleyes: |
how much cardio were you doing back then? my friend easily was that lean when he did a competition...but he was basically starving himself and hitting some mad cardio |
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| Ygrene |
| It was ridiculous cardio, I may have been a little overboard. I would go monday thru friday every morning at 5:30. :eyes: 30 min on stairmaster, 15 min on treadmill. Some nights I would go back home after lifting and eat, wait 30 min and then go back to the gym and do another 30 min of stairmaster. And sometimes I would do cardio Saturday morning, go back home and eat, and then go back to the gym and lift. I did all cardio, except evenings, on an empty stomach. I didn't miss one weekday of cardio that whole summer! It was difficult to readjust my schedule when I went back to school, as I was going to bed every night at 9 pm. I kinda miss some of that rigorous schedule though. |
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| well if that is what it'll take...then that's what i'll have to do. i'll just do cardio every morning...and then lift later on in the day when i get some eats in me...of course as always...i'm afraid that all my muscle will go away :(...but i guess 30-40 mins of cardio wouldn't be too counter productive... |
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| Ygrene |
| I was taking creatine and HMB and eating a little over 240 grams of protein everyday to try and minimize the muscle loss. I really started looking good in the first week of august, except I was still carrying just a bit of water due to the creatine. I stopped taking that for the last two weeks of summer and lost 7 pounds almost instantly. When I lost those last 7 pounds it blew my mind! I couldn't believe what I looked like, it made my summers-worth of isolation from the world entirely worth it. When you get to the point you will totally see what I mean, just standing there grinning at yourself. :D And then I drank a beer and was buzzing after half the bottle! |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Ygrene
I was taking creatine and HMB and eating a little over 240 grams of protein everyday to try and minimize the muscle loss. I really started looking good in the first week of august, except I was still carrying just a bit of water due to the creatine. I stopped taking that for the last two weeks of summer and lost 7 pounds almost instantly. When I lost those last 7 pounds it blew my mind! I couldn't believe what I looked like, it made my summers-worth of isolation from the world entirely worth it. When you get to the point you will totally see what I mean, just standing there grinning at yourself. :D And then I drank a beer and was buzzing after half the bottle! |
hahaha sweet. i'm going to africa next summer to see my ex...so i gotta be looking teh sexy hahaha. i think i could do it by then...i just gotta work hard at that . do you think that point you were at could be maintained indefinitely? how come you aren't that way anymore? i know i've let myself go in that past...no way i'm in my best shape right now...but what happened with your situation? did you just try bulking again or what? |
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| Ygrene |
Yeah, I think it could be maintained indefinitely to a certain point but, you really really really have to watch the diet if you are not doing all that cardio.
I try to maintain a happy medium now, whereas I'm still very lean but I can go into the gym and have plenty of energy for workouts. Plus I can have some flexibility in my diet and not give myself a complex about straying from it a litle bit. I think if I wanted to get back to that crazy ripped shape now, I might be a month or 3 weeks away from it, if I turned on the crazy cardio again and dropped the creatine.
I dunno, all this talk is kind of making want to resurrect my old RATM - Evil Empire tape (yes tape) that i listened to for every cardio session that summer and do it all again. When are you planning to start this? |
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well...i'm of course always working out...i'm going away this weekend to toronto, but i would assume starting right after that hehehe...next week. my goal would to basically look fantastic by juneish...i'm guessing if i did the crazy daily cardio factor i could probably be that ripped in 5-6 weeks easy. i also of course wanna add some muscle to that...but i think if i eat right...that i'll be able to make some additional improvement...
i've just let myself go...i feel so weak and fatty. i mean...i still look pretty decent to normal people, but another lifter could totally spot the illusion i have going on hehehe.
we should keep the daily log in this thread of what we are doing...and be honest about cheating on diet, missed days, etc... |
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| Ygrene |
| Well, if you do start next week, I might do it for at least a month also, for old times sake. :D And that way you won't have to fly solo for at least the first month. Let me know. ;) |
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| why just a month?...what are your goals? long term... |
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| Ygrene |
My long term goal is 30% to maintain my size and 70% to maintain my strength. The strength is more important so I can be competitive on the basketball court.
I think after a month of doing the daily morning cardio I could be ok with my size and strength but, going longer than that I fear I would start to see my strength suffer. But I would like to rip up hardcore again. (insert evil laugh) |
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yeah i could see you taking hits on the strength with that much cardio. and actually lemme ask you..
i used to be able to do a lot of weight on exercises...i had a period where i did a lot of cardio and lost that strength and its never come back to me. i don't mind THAT much since i really only give a damn about looking good hahaha, but i do wish i could get that strength back. i suppose my method of training, i usually only aim for 12 reps, doesn't really support maxing and that kinda ...but what do you think about that? any thoughts on how i can get that strength back? my friend is having the same problem. i mean we both lost a lot of body fat and we just can't lift a lot of weight anymore. |
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| Ygrene |
Well, after I got hardcore into being ripped, I got hardcore into getting big. So eventually I gained all my strength back and more. I did it by working in a low rep range with big movements and even a little powerlifting. But definitely shedding that fat made me lose strength, no doubt about it. I think you can gain lean muscle without gaining fat but, it's just easier to gain muscle when you have no limits to your energy supplies.
I think that's why so many pro bodybuilders have their 'phases' throughout the course of the year. Their weight may fluctuate 50 - 60 pounds over the course of a year, between their diet phase and building phase. |
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