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| Orbax |
| yeah and FF, if you actually follow that routine you posted before it should do pretty much what you want. You arent gonna bulk a whole lot because its so intense hehe but it is gonna drain the hell out of you and convert fat into muscle. Youll gain id say 5-10 lbs but have 9% body fat after about 2 months. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
yeah and FF, if you actually follow that routine you posted before it should do pretty much what you want. You arent gonna bulk a whole lot because its so intense hehe but it is gonna drain the hell out of you and convert fat into muscle. Youll gain id say 5-10 lbs but have 9% body fat after about 2 months. |
mmmmmm 9% hehehe.
i think i'd be feeling pretty good if i hit the 9%...i should go get a body fat test done so i can keep track of that... |
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| Orbax |
the biggest part of it is gonna be two-fold. Doing it regularly and limiting caloric intake hehe.
Right now im trying to lose a lb a day for the next 8 days for Argentina trip and get all riply and toned hehe. I ate half a bowl of pasta, half a head of lettuce, and about 15 slices of deli sliced lean turkey yesterday and 2 pots of coffee. I also ran and hit the bag.
Today I plan on doing crazy ab work out, bench press, reverse DB flies, lat pulls downs and a run.
Then i plan on eating 1 piece of toast, coffee and a tomato for BFast today. gonna snack on lettuce and thin meats till dinner and ill have a lil bit of pasta and tons of water through out. later on ill probably snack on more lettuce and deli meat. But altogether im guessing calories will be around 1000-1200. Tomorrow i might eat a little moreso its not tooo unhealthy, but im talkin like 1600 calories.
I hate it when people tell me im naturallylike this. It aint easy and it isnt very much fun. Im hungry right now. and thirsty. And working out is going to be exhausting.
but yah know. Im gonna look and feel awesome when I go back to a normal routine :p
plus i ust woke up and im trembling with energy. Its amazing what not eating frees up energy wise :) |
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| diego |
man orbax losing another 8 lbs, you're going to be ripped as hell, if it's all fat, wow you certainly do like being extreme lean
and FFS FF post the freakin' pics you waster! |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by diego
man orbax losing another 8 lbs, you're going to be ripped as hell, if it's all fat, wow you certainly do like being extreme lean
and FFS FF post the freakin' pics you waster! |
you've got pms...:o |
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| Orbax |
I dont LIKE being extreme lean hehe. But if its a choice between ill defined skinyna dn defined skinny...
heres where im at now, trying to lose the extra lbs
really needs abs! eek |
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| Ezman |
I cbf'ed searching through the whole thread and have a general question:
I've been working out for a while now, but after 2 months break I'm back at it again, although I'm now doing higher reps with less rest inbetween sets (around 30-40secs) to try increase fitness and endurance.
Sometimes I'm finding this quite difficult in the major muscle groups (bench press, chin ups etc.).
The other day I was doing decline bench press and managed to do 11 reps the 1st set, followed by 7 and then another massive drop to 3.
My question is what can help me in this situation in terms of diet/training? (assuming I still want to push myself until fail in each set, if its possible). More carbs? or cardiovascular work? Or should I just drop the weight in each of the following sets and succumb to my ty endurance? :p
edit: btw, im aiming to do 3 sets of 7-10 reps |
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| Floorfiller |
well it could be a couple of things. energy levels could effect that like you said. also you just have to get use to working the muscles that way. i mean you can have muscle strength without muscle endurance and vice versa...the only way to fix that is to keep doing what you're doing and get used to doing it...
some other things you might want to try and change the amount of rest you give yourself in between sets. obviously the more time between sets the more time your muscles will be able to last on the next set. i think most people that want to do lots of sets to failure will probably increase the rest time inbetween sets.
and i guess if you wanted to work more on muscle endurance as oppossed overall srength for something different you could dramatically decrease the wiehgt you are doing and then just do more reps that way...that'll help build endurance and also help define muscle groups...
i dunno...just some thoughts... |
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| Orbax |
biggest thing is prob gonna be diet and cardio
I can do more reps and sets when ive been eating carb and fat rich diet. Eat some pasta or bread or something (small amount like a handful hehe) right before the work out and let it digest for 30 min or so. then hit it up. Stay hyrdated. protein tackes ridiculous amounts of water to function. Drink at least a gallon of water a day.
the other half is cardio. You need to have a system that will get your blood and muscles oxygenated, and quickly. The best thing on earth for it is intervals. jog a 200, run a 400, jog 200, run 400 etc... I usually half ass it and jog for 2 miles and then run for 2 miles at 85%.
Ive noticed my workouts becoming longer after doing 8 mile hikes regularly.
if you cut out carbs, expect decrease in energy levels.
but also remember with your cardio work out, you only have so much glycogen in your body. A cardio workout iwll decrease your workout and vice versa. I suggest workout before cardio. or just seperate them into different days. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
biggest thing is prob gonna be diet and cardio
I can do more reps and sets when ive been eating carb and fat rich diet. Eat some pasta or bread or something (small amount like a handful hehe) right before the work out and let it digest for 30 min or so. then hit it up. Stay hyrdated. protein tackes ridiculous amounts of water to function. Drink at least a gallon of water a day.
the other half is cardio. You need to have a system that will get your blood and muscles oxygenated, and quickly. The best thing on earth for it is intervals. jog a 200, run a 400, jog 200, run 400 etc... I usually half ass it and jog for 2 miles and then run for 2 miles at 85%.
Ive noticed my workouts becoming longer after doing 8 mile hikes regularly.
if you cut out carbs, expect decrease in energy levels.
but also remember with your cardio work out, you only have so much glycogen in your body. A cardio workout iwll decrease your workout and vice versa. I suggest workout before cardio. or just seperate them into different days. |
hmmmmm
well i know i personally have been wanting to do cardio in the morning before i workout simply because i'll burn more fat that way. i'm not doing a ton of cardio...maybe about 30 - 45 minutes, but what do you think about the glycogen business. i won't lift until the evening so is there a way to replenish those levels through out the day... |
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| Orbax |
| You pretty much need sleep to go get it all back but if you run at say 8am and then get back and eat a 50/50 protein carb meal like eggs and toast and then just rest up....its just one of those things that is rapid access and it needs time to build up again...fruits would help, and stuff too...but mainly carbs hehe. So yeah I would say if youre looking to burn fat and get muscle, switch to weights in the morning and eat protein after it and then run in the afternoon and just drink water. with minimal amounts of carbs in there. That should kick your body into a fasting like mode where it burns fat instead of muscle. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
You pretty much need sleep to go get it all back but if you run at say 8am and then get back and eat a 50/50 protein carb meal like eggs and toast and then just rest up....its just one of those things that is rapid access and it needs time to build up again...fruits would help, and stuff too...but mainly carbs hehe. So yeah I would say if youre looking to burn fat and get muscle, switch to weights in the morning and eat protein after it and then run in the afternoon and just drink water. with minimal amounts of carbs in there. That should kick your body into a fasting like mode where it burns fat instead of muscle. |
i could always just sleep in class and at work and replenish that way :gsmile: hehehe :p |
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