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Does Australia Suck? (pg. 98)
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Teezdalien
Should see all the dead fish and washed up at the beaches around Redcliffe here.:eek:
tubularbills
are there big differences in cities there like there is in the USA? big cultural differences between east and west coast/ south vs north?

and what is up with alice springs being like a weird ass oasis in the middle of the desert? :wtf:
narcism
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Originally posted by tubularbills
are there big differences in cities there like there is in the USA? big cultural differences between east and west coast/ south vs north?

and what is up with alice springs being like a weird ass oasis in the middle of the desert? :wtf:


YES
tubularbills
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Originally posted by narcism
YES


so how is, say, melbourne different from brisbane or sydney or perth?
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by tubularbills
are there big differences in cities there like there is in the USA? big cultural differences between east and west coast/ south vs north?

and what is up with alice springs being like a weird ass oasis in the middle of the desert? :wtf:


The cultural differences between the big cities aren't that big, IMO. The cities have their own quirks and so forth, but it's not like you're going to be encountering a culture shock or something.

The differences between city-living and country-living Australians, on the other hand.... :stongue:

No idea about Alica Springs though. I would never even want to go there :p
tubularbills
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Originally posted by Sushipunk

The differences between city-living and country-living Australians, on the other hand.... :stongue:


llol do explain
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by tubularbills
llol do explain


Well, I guess it's not really any different than city vs, country folks in the US.

It's the whole redneck thing, along with the full-on "Strayan" accent. It's pretty funny, and very easy to spot a country person in the city :p
tubularbills
:haha: just what i was hoping to hear for an answer.

i get a good laugh at the little town i live in whenever i go to the city hall and get a glimpse of all the folks that live in this place. same effect at wal*mart too lol.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by tubularbills
:haha: just what i was hoping to hear for an answer.

i get a good laugh at the little town i live in whenever i go to the city hall and get a glimpse of all the folks that live in this place. same effect at wal*mart too lol.


I lol too, but I probably shouldn't. I grew up in a pretty rural town north of Brisbane. When I moved here to go to Uni, I probably sounded like that :p

Thankfully a few years of travelling overseas tempered my "Strayan" accent :p
tubularbills
speaking of uni's, do you guys have university rankings over there? like here we have "prestige" schools like yale and harvard and like those vs "ordinary" state schools like arizona state.

Sushipunk
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Originally posted by tubularbills
speaking of uni's, do you guys have university rankings over there? like here we have "prestige" schools like yale and harvard and like those vs "ordinary" state schools like arizona state.


Not quite the same. You have your Ivy League schools over there, and like that. It's almost like a culture thing. And the price differs between Unis as well, right? Not like that here so much, but there ARE private Universities with different fee structures here (I think?). Prices here are based on which degree you're getting, not necessarily which Uni you're attending.

Here, it's more just a case of people knowing which Unis are better than others for a particular field - Which Uni will give you the best job prospects at the end.
The17sss
If I lived in Australia and was dealing with the floods, I'd want to ing bludgeon the enviro whack jobs after learning of this:


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Queensland floods: but at least the 'endangered' Mary River cod is safe, eh?



Were it not for the actions of Environment Minister Peter Garrett, for example, the Queensland town of Gympie would not now be underwater. Unfortunately, Garrett took it upon himself to block the proposed dam that would have prevented it:

Federal Environment Minister Peter Garrett on Wednesday said he made the interim decision to reject the controversial $1.8 billion plan to dam the Mary River because evidence showed it could kill off endangered species. He made the interim decision to reject the controversial $1.8 billion plan to dam the Mary River because evidence showed it could kill off endangered species. “The project would have serious and irreversible effects on national listed species such as the Australian lungfish, the Mary River turtle and the Mary River cod – both of those endangered.

...I am sitting here in my home in South East Queensland, watching the news come in about the flooding everywhere. Entire suburbs around Brisbane and several smaller towns are either isolated by flood-waters or have been evacuated. Highways are cut everywhere.

People have been dying. So far about 20 people have died in the past week – nine just this morning when a deluge went through the Lockyer Valley. Most of them children. Another 70 are missing. One could put it all down to “just” weather.

Except EXACTLY the same floods occurred in EXACTLY the same places back in 1974, with much the same tragic loss of life and destruction of property.

Back then we weren’t nearly as clever and learned as you think yourselves to be today. Back then we had this silly notion that climate was cyclical, and if we didn’t prepare for it, we would have a repeat of the same tragedies to deal with in “about thirty years”. That was the thinking of the scientists back then – that climate went in roughly thirty year cycles.

Flood mitigation programs were planned. A series of levee banks and diversionary dams would be built. Brisbane and SE QLD would NEVER suffer such devastation again. After all, we had thirty years to plan and build and improve.

And that’s what we did – or at least started. Wivenhoe Dam got built as the first step, but by the time it was finished clever people like you lot who “knew” that such things were never going to happen again had taken over. CO2 AGW madness had already taken hold.

Instead we had “post modern” minds like Tim Flannery “advising” the government that because of Anthropogenic Global Warming, SE QLD would be perpetually in drought from then on. “Forget dams and flood mitigation programs”, intoned the wise Dr Tim – “build desalination plants instead”.

So that’s what our government did. And that is why thirty five years later, we are once again suffering exactly the SAME tragic loss of life and destruction of property, pretty-much exactly where, and when, and how, those stupid scientists who foolishly believed climate was cyclical had predicted.

Meanwhile our billion dollar desalination plant is quietly being mothballed, and emergency crews are frantically trying to work out how they might be able to save nineteen thousand homes from destruction in the next couple of days, as the Lockyer deluge hits Brisbane. Wise Dr Tim Flannery has been made ‘Australian of the Year” for his contributions.

I google on the internet for climate extremes and climate-related disasters in the 1972 – 1979 period – the period of the last transition in the natural weather cycle, and I find that it wasn’t a good period in many places around the world. Record and near record high – and low temperatures, record and near-record precipitation, and so on. Floods and droughts pretty-much mimicking what is happening now, and in pretty-much the same places.

I also noted that the indicators of the “silly” theory of the cyclical nature , ocean and atmospheric, are pretty much exactly as they are now.

I have to admit it could all get a bit depressing. But then I remember that the world is in the capable hands of much cleverer people than those silly scientists back in the Seventies who believed climate was cyclical. Now the decisions are being made by clever people like Dr Tim Flannery

– and you.

That is when I weep for my fellow Man.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...cod-is-safe-eh/
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