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Official 2005 MLB Season thread (pg. 67)
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| Dj Smitty20 |
the call on Cano was ing horse (did Joe West have money on Anaheim or what?)...and I don't know what the HELL sheffield was doing...the centre fielder calls the balls and the left and right fielders should back off. But Mr. ing Glory Seeker has to up what would have been an inning ending catch by Crosby.
I'm starting to wonder whether it was wise bringing in Arod. Sure, he's awesome in the season but he IS NOT A CLUTCH HITTER, which is what the Dynasty Yankees have always had, most notably the recent era. Give me Paul O'Neil for Sheffield any day....I don't care about the season numbers. Give me Tino in his prime over Giambi any day and so on and so on.
This doesn't feel as bad as last year, or 2001 and 2003 but...the offseason will be interesting. Thanks Bernie Williams, by the way, because you won't be coming back. |
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| TigerClaw |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
the call on Cano was ing horse (did Joe West have money on Anaheim or what?)...and I don't know what the HELL sheffield was doing...the centre fielder calls the balls and the left and right fielders should back off. But Mr. ing Glory Seeker has to up what would have been an inning ending catch by Crosby.
I'm starting to wonder whether it was wise bringing in Arod. Sure, he's awesome in the season but he IS NOT A CLUTCH HITTER, which is what the Dynasty Yankees have always had, most notably the recent era. Give me Paul O'Neil for Sheffield any day....I don't care about the season numbers. Give me Tino in his prime over Giambi any day and so on and so on.
This doesn't feel as bad as last year, or 2001 and 2003 but...the offseason will be interesting. Thanks Bernie Williams, by the way, because you won't be coming back. |
I can tell you one thing, I bet Lots of people in the yankees staff are gonna be fired tomorrow, lol. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
Everybody goes on and on about the Yankees' payroll. Money doesn't buy you championships. In 96, their payroll was 52 million...in 2000, their last Series title, it was still less than 100. Winning in the post season takes more than money...a quality in players you just don't see very often.
Arod has proven, so far at least, that he DOES NOT have it. Neither does Mussina (although I still like him), nor Sheffield the Glory Seeker, nor Giambi, etc. Guys like Paul O'Neil, Scott Broscius, Tino Martinez in his younger days, Derek Jeter, Roger Clemens, Andy Petitte, Curt Schilling (even though I hate him) David Ortiz, Mariano Rivera...these guys are real winners.
I'm sorry to turn on Arod but his effort disgusted me. He's really going to get it from yankee fans this off season and unlike last year, frankly, he deserves it.
I don't want to see Torre go. This isn't his fault...he deserves a raise for even getting this team to the playoffs.
Anyway, on to the next round. I like White Sox in 6 and Astros in 7. |
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| Disney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
the call on Cano was ing horse (did Joe West have money on Anaheim or what?)...and I don't know what the HELL sheffield was doing...the centre fielder calls the balls and the left and right fielders should back off. But Mr. ing Glory Seeker has to up what would have been an inning ending catch by Crosby.
I'm starting to wonder whether it was wise bringing in Arod. Sure, he's awesome in the season but he IS NOT A CLUTCH HITTER, which is what the Dynasty Yankees have always had, most notably the recent era. Give me Paul O'Neil for Sheffield any day....I don't care about the season numbers. Give me Tino in his prime over Giambi any day and so on and so on.
This doesn't feel as bad as last year, or 2001 and 2003 but...the offseason will be interesting. Thanks Bernie Williams, by the way, because you won't be coming back. |
The call on Cano was somewhat strange, but if anyone should have caught that fly ball, it was Sheffield. The ball was drifting in to him. I don't know if Crosby even called the ball, but I think it's safe to say that even if he did, the crowd noise made sure that no one was able to hear it.
Without ARod the Yankees wouldn't even be in the postseason, but he was pretty much useless this postseason... |
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| jonze234 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Say what? I wasnt watching the game, though I know the result. |
the umpire called cano out at first for interferring with the throw of molina down to first. the ump said that he was out of the base path. if you get a chance to watch sportscenter it should be on there. i forget exactly what the situation was but i think there were runners on second and third and two outs (although it could have been first and second). |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonze234
the umpire called cano out at first for interferring with the throw of molina down to first. the ump said that he was out of the base path. if you get a chance to watch sportscenter it should be on there. i forget exactly what the situation was but i think there were runners on second and third and two outs (although it could have been first and second). |
Aaah. Well, it seems like both Yankees and Braves have been disappointing their organizations in the last 5 years - for this I am considering payrolls and coaching/ownership/scouting. Clearly both teams have been doing something wrong.
But unlike in the Braves organization, I think in Yankees' someone is going to get axed this offseason. More than one. Steinbrenner is going to be looooooose! Left and right, left and right, he'll be chopping those positions down (and payroll)! |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Aaah. Well, it seems like both Yankees and Braves have been disappointing their organizations in the last 5 years - for this I am considering payrolls and coaching/ownership/scouting. Clearly both teams have been doing something wrong.
But unlike in the Braves organization, I think in Yankees' someone is going to get axed this offseason. More than one. Steinbrenner is going to be looooooose! Left and right, left and right, he'll be chopping those positions down! |
Steinbrenner should really remove himself from meddling with the team.
As for the Braves, it was really a rebuilding year, so it can't be that disappointing even with all these early playoff exits. |
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| Eddie N MIAMI |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
Steinbrenner should really remove himself from meddling with the team.
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some people never learn do they
Cashman and most of the pitching will be gone, hitters will probably stay in tact other than a couple of obvious moves in the outfield.
Yanks just have to dedicate more time into their farm system rather than buying 30/40 something pitchers year in year out. Money dosnt always buy good pitching.
anyways i like the new blood on the ALCS, and the NLCS rematch, should be fun |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Everybody goes on and on about the Yankees' payroll. Money doesn't buy you championships. In 96, their payroll was 52 million...in 2000, their last Series title, it was still less than 100. Winning in the post season takes more than money...a quality in players you just don't see very often.
Arod has proven, so far at least, that he DOES NOT have it. Neither does Mussina (although I still like him), nor Sheffield the Glory Seeker, nor Giambi, etc. Guys like Paul O'Neil, Scott Broscius, Tino Martinez in his younger days, Derek Jeter, Roger Clemens, Andy Petitte, Curt Schilling (even though I hate him) David Ortiz, Mariano Rivera...these guys are real winners.
I'm sorry to turn on Arod but his effort disgusted me. He's really going to get it from yankee fans this off season and unlike last year, frankly, he deserves it.
I don't want to see Torre go. This isn't his fault...he deserves a raise for even getting this team to the playoffs.
Anyway, on to the next round. I like White Sox in 6 and Astros in 7. |
i agree with you about torre
the guy is a genious.. the best manager in baseball hands down
and i am a red sox fan |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
i agree with you about torre
the guy is a genious.. the best manager in baseball hands down
and i am a red sox fan |
Obviously... you don't watch many Yankee games. Torre is not a genius. He's not a great manager. He's not a bad manager.
If you want to find the best manager in baseball, take a look down in Atlanta. |
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| Shamez214 |
| The Yankees cannot do much with their rotation. 4/5 of it is set already, money-wise, with Johnson, Mussina, Pavano, and Wright. I'm assuming Chacon gets the last spot. Unlike previous years, I do not see them trading Pavano and/or Wright and paying their entire salary... and that's the only way either of them do get traded. |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Obviously... you don't watch many Yankee games. Torre is not a genius. He's not a great manager. He's not a bad manager.
If you want to find the best manager in baseball, take a look down in Atlanta. |
you mean bobby cox? the one who has managed to bring the braves to the postseason every year since the birth of jesus and yet has only 1 WS ring to show for it?
i would rather take torre hehe
yeah I don't watch many yankee games, but those that I have watched torre seems to have done a good job and (almost always) made all the right moves...
i would also like to add mike scioscia to my list of above average managers. but when it comes down to it, torre is my pick.
just a thought: it would be funny to see torre fired, and then red sox hiring him. i know francona has a year left on his contract, but oh well... |
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