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THE OFFICIAL CALIFORNIA PLUS BOOMER 'N WHISKERS THREAD! (pg. 992)
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
i dont think the paragraph made sence to me.. and i was kindda there... |
haha
well let me see if i can translate it ...
| quote: | | and yes it was MY IDEA to go down there.. i told u and u went to ur car to get something and then came back.. u and jordan were too ed up.. i had the idea and then jordan said YEAH!!! and u said wtvr.... i laughed.. |
It was your idea to go down there....
You told sara and she went to her car to get something and then came back...
Sara and Jordan were too ****** up..
A lightbulb went off in your head....
Jordan said YEAH
Sara said whatever.
You laughed..
hmm makes sense for me.. (I dont know whether or not the u parts referred to Sara or Zewad so i guessed :D ) |
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| DaveSZ |
Indeed.
Check this one;
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0426-03.htm
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Published on Monday, April 26, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
Lawyers Try to Gag FBI Worker over 9/11
by Andrew Buncombe in Washington
The Bush administration will today seek to prevent a former FBI translator from providing evidence about 11 September intelligence failures to a group of relatives and survivors who have accused international banks and officials of aiding al-Qa'ida.
Sibel Edmonds was subpoenaed by a law firm representing more than 500 family members and survivors of the attacks to testify that she had seen information proving there was considerable evidence before September 2001 that al-Qa'ida was planning to strike the US with aircraft. The lawyers made their demand after reading comments Mrs Edmonds had made to The Independent.
But the US Justice Department is seeking to stop her from testifying, citing the rarely used "state secrets privilege". Today in a federal court in Washington, senior government lawyers will try to gag Mrs Edmonds, claiming that disclosure of her evidence "would cause serious damage to the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States".
Mrs Edmonds, 33, a Turkish-American who had top secret security clearance, claimed this month that while working in the FBI's Washington headquarters, she saw information proving senior officials knew of al-Qa'ida plans to attack the US with aircraft months before the strikes. She has provided sworn testimony to the independent panel appointed by President George Bush to investigate the circumstances surrounding 11 September.
Mrs Edmonds was subpoenaed by the law firm Motley-Rice, which represents hundreds of families who are taking civil action against a number of banks and two members of the Saudi royal family for allegedly aiding al-Qa'ida.
Her lawyer, Mark Zaid, said last night: "The FBI wants to shut her up completely." He said it was ridiculous to claim that everything Mrs Edmonds knew had national security implications. Rather, he said, the FBI wanted to silence his client to save its embarrassment.
The Bush administration has been put on the back foot by allegations that senior officials - perhaps even Mr Bush himself - were provided with considerable information warning of an imminent attack by al-Qa'ida and that they failed to act. Mrs Edmonds said yesterday: "What are they are afraid of? If I am not allowed to give evidence, the families will not get the information I have; that will be that."
She said it was wrong for the Bush administration to claim it wanted a full investigation. "If there is transparency, there is going to be accountability and that is what they don't want."
© Copyright 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
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But, the rabbithole gets deeper!
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0402-01.htm
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Published on Friday, April 2, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
'I Saw Papers That Show US Knew al-Qa'ida Would Attack Cities With Airplanes'
Whistleblower the White House wants to silence speaks to The Independent
by Andrew Buncombe in Washington
A former translator for the FBI with top-secret security clearance says she has provided information to the panel investigating the 11 September attacks which proves senior officials knew of al-Qa'ida's plans to attack the US with aircraft months before the strikes happened.
Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds [CBS]
She said the claim by the National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice, that there was no such information was "an outrageous lie".
Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session with the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained a gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets privilege".
She told The Independent yesterday: "I gave [the commission] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. I gave them everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented. These things can be established very easily."
She added: "There was general information about the time-frame, about methods to be used _ but not specifically about how they would be used _ and about people being in place and who was ordering these sorts of terror attacks. There were other cities that were mentioned. Major cities _ with skyscrapers."
The accusations from Mrs Edmonds, 33, a Turkish-American who speaks Azerbaijani, Farsi, Turkish and English, will reignite the controversy over whether the administration ignored warnings about al-Qa'ida. That controversy was sparked most recently by Richard Clarke, a former counter-terrorism official, who has accused the administration of ignoring his warnings.
The issue _ what the administration knew and when _ is central to the investigation by the 9/11 Commission, which has been hearing testimony in public and private from government officials, intelligence officials and secret sources. Earlier this week, the White House made a U-turn when it said that Ms Rice would appear in public before the commission to answer questions. Mr Bush and his deputy, Dick Cheney, will also be questioned in a closed-door session.
Mrs Edmonds, 33, says she gave her evidence to the commission in a specially constructed "secure" room at its offices in Washington on 11 February. She was hired as a translator for the FBI's Washington field office on 13 September 2001, just two days after the al-Qa'ida attacks. Her job was to translate documents and recordings from FBI wire-taps.
She said said it was clear there was sufficient information during the spring and summer of 2001 to indicate terrorists were planning an attack. "Most of what I told the commission _ 90 per cent of it _ related to the investigations that I was involved in or just from working in the department. Two hundred translators side by side, you get to see and hear a lot of other things as well."
"President Bush said they had no specific information about 11 September and that is accurate but only because he said 11 September," she said. There was, however, general information about the use of airplanes and that an attack was just months away.
To try to refute Mr Clarke's accusations, Ms Rice said the administration did take steps to counter al-Qa'ida. But in an opinion piece in The Washington Post on 22 March, Ms Rice wrote: "Despite what some have suggested, we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles, though some analysts speculated that terrorists might hijack planes to try and free US-held terrorists."
Mrs Edmonds said that by using the word "we", Ms Rice told an "outrageous lie". She said: "Rice says 'we' not 'I'. That would include all people from the FBI, the CIA and DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency]. I am saying that is impossible."
It is impossible at this stage to verify Mrs Edmonds' claims. However, some senior US senators testified to her credibility in 2002 when she went public with separate allegations relating to alleged incompetence and corruption within the FBI's translation department.
© 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
haha
well let me see if i can translate it ...
It was your idea to go down there....
You told sara and she went to her car to get something and then came back...
Sara and Jordan were too ****** up..
A lightbulb went off in your head....
Jordan said YEAH
Sara said whatever.
You laughed..
hmm makes sense for me.. (I dont know whether or not the u parts referred to Sara or Zewad so i guessed :D ) |
nice breakdown... i guess its easier now... and it was for sara the u.. brent went down there too which i dont remember him going with us... it was in the middle of the woods and we went to chill after getting messed up :) sooo fun |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
nice breakdown... i guess its easier now... and it was for sara the u.. brent went down there too which i dont remember him going with us... it was in the middle of the woods and we went to chill after getting messed up :) sooo fun |
bitchin'!
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| Zewad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
hey those are pretty cool pics zewad. Was this BBQ just a get together for all the FL (and ATL) TAs? or was it a meetup before going to a show?
if it was just hanging out for a day, then thats pretty sweet. I wish we DC, VA, MD & PA TAs could organize something like that.. |
it was a random party that some AtlTA's decided to throw,.. they decided this last monday and all those people were able to come on 5 days notice,... it was in Atlanta and 4 FLTAs drove 6hrs and i flew from Oklahoma for the party.. roughly 30 TAs showed up,... we do this sort of thing for Atl/FL,...
about once a month there is a big meetup of some sort....
mario.. i was up on the deck and looked down and saw about 7 of you chilling by the strobe light and i was like ohhh,. i havent been down there yet so i went to see what you all were up to and obviously  since i dont do that i just wanted to take a couple pics.... then for some brilliant reason i decided to carry leeann up that steep ass hill:rolleyes: wtf was i thinking?
if that Vegas thing can be pushed on being seious on happening i would still consider it.... |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zewad
it was a random party that some AtlTA's decided to throw,.. they decided this last monday and all those people were able to come on 5 days notice,... it was in Atlanta and 4 FLTAs drove 6hrs and i flew from Oklahoma for the party.. roughly 30 TAs showed up,... we do this sort of thing for Atl/FL,...
about once a month there is a big meetup of some sort....
mario.. i was up on the deck and looked down and saw about 7 of you chilling by the strobe light and i was like ohhh,. i havent been down there yet so i went to see what you all were up to and obviously since i dont do that i just wanted to take a couple pics.... then for some brilliant reason i decided to carry leeann up that steep ass hill:rolleyes: wtf was i thinking?
if that Vegas thing can be pushed on being seious on happening i would still consider it.... |
dude soooo much fun! best house party EVA!!!!... imo and yes the was fun... in the woods by a strobe light and poeple taking pics like mad.... soo chill |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zewad
it was a random party that some AtlTA's decided to throw,.. they decided this last monday and all those people were able to come on 5 days notice,... it was in Atlanta and 4 FLTAs drove 6hrs and i flew from Oklahoma for the party.. roughly 30 TAs showed up,... we do this sort of thing for Atl/FL,...
about once a month there is a big meetup of some sort....
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see now thats pretty cool. We used to have get togethers at a DCTAs house in Maryland, but i never made it to a single one :( now he's gone to school in India so those meetups rarely happen anymore..
oh well, id be up for a Vegas meetup....
if i lived on the west coast |
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| Zewad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
see now thats pretty cool. We used to have get togethers at a DCTAs house in Maryland, but i never made it to a single one :( now he's gone to school in India so those meetups rarely happen anymore..
oh well, id be up for a Vegas meetup....
if i lived on the west coast |
oh yeah,.. Amit,.. i was in DC for Armin at Glow last June and was told that he was going to show but the people at his pre-party drank too much,... i miss his and Taub's pics of the girlies...
btw,.. thats what airplanes are for.... you think i live near atlanta? |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zewad
oh yeah,.. Amit,.. i was in DC for Armin at Glow last June and was told that he was going to show but the people at his pre-party drank too much,... i miss his and Taub's pics of the girlies...
btw,.. thats what airplanes are for.... you think i live near atlanta? |
i would defenetly go but i have no job so no money so no meet up :( i would lvoe to go to vegas and chill |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zewad
btw,.. thats what airplanes are for.... you think i live near atlanta? |
tis true, but thats what money is for, to pay for the tickets to fly on an airplane
money is a luxury i do not have
:(
c'est la vie |
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| Zewad |
 poo cookies |
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| fuct4less |
not too surprising. although, you'd think that something like this would get much more media coverage than it currently has. of course the mass american media is usually pretty slow when it comes to stuff like this. guess we'll see.
| quote: | Originally posted by Zewad
if that Vegas thing can be pushed on being seious on happening i would still consider it.... |
id be up for it
| quote: | Originally posted by Mebot
tis true, but thats what money is for, to pay for the tickets to fly on an airplane
money is a luxury i do not have
:(
c'est la vie |
im broke too. :(
my only source of income is through mowing lawns and washing cars. |
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