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Halcyon+On+On quote: Originally posted by Miss Pie I think you're onto something here. . It has been a life-long dream of mine to become a post-op Male. It would take years and years of financial investment, as I'd have to make the transition to female first, then switch back over to male again. Don't make fun of me, it's just who I am on the inside. :p Moral Hazard quote: Originally posted by nefardec Maybe, but I'm saying either way it's not OK to assume that about everyone, just like it isn't OK to be like "LOL i didn't know you're black does this mean you're eating chicken right now instead of paying for your illegitimate kid's child support?" I never suggested it was okay to make the assumption. ziptnf Uh, sorry Vivid, but you're making a big ing deal out of nothing. So what if Adam wanted to become Avana? She's doing what she feels is right in her own mind, because it's a free country and she can do whatever she wants to. This is her calling, so let it be. Vivid Boy i feel the same. i feel like a black guy that wants to be a white guy. im going to pigment my skin and alter my nose to be a black man. live that life for 2 years complaining about the white man and then bleach my skin and get a longer nose. this is who i am Halcyon+On+On I'm a dude, playing a dude, pretending to be another dude! Vivid Boy quote: Originally posted by ziptnf Uh, sorry Vivid, but you're making a big ing deal out of nothing. So what if Adam wanted to become Avana? She's doing what she feels is right in her own mind, because it's a free country and she can do whatever she wants to. This is her calling, so let it be. ya its all fun and games till youre in a club on your 10th beer lookin for a random to bring home and dont notice an adams apple ziptnf Gender and race are completely different. Did you know that some societies around the globe have as many as 5 different genders? It's a culturally accepted thing to have multiple genders, but hardly anybody wants to change races. Apples and oranges. Halcyon+On+On quote: Originally posted by Vivid Boy ya its all fun and games till youre in a club on your 10th beer lookin for a random to bring home and dont notice an adams apple You mean after you've voluntarily altered your body chemistry to attain the goal of inebriation? :p nefardec quote: Originally posted by Vivid Boy no see i think you are being a about it. I'm not going to waste my time responding to your post, except this got me. How is any part of the transition process 'being a '? (figuratively) If you think it's just taking a pill, you're really mistaken.... damn. It's quite easily the ballsiest and most difficult thing I've ever done. Moongoose quote: Originally posted by Vivid Boy ya its all fun and games till youre in a club on your 10th beer lookin for a random to bring home and dont notice an adams apple If youre drunk enough you aint gonna notice a dick either. Until the next morning anyway when you wonder why it hurts to sit. ziptnf quote: Originally posted by Vivid Boy and dont notice adams apple fixed. slightly. :p nefardec quote: Originally posted by Vivid Boy i feel the same. i feel like a black guy that wants to be a white guy. im going to pigment my skin and alter my nose to be a black man. live that life for 2 years complaining about the white man and then bleach my skin and get a longer nose. this is who i am well, people do that. to big differences though are: - there are no categorically 'black' hormones and 'white' hormones. - society is light years ahead with race variation than with gender variation. 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