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Edm Genres? (pg. 16)
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| auranaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by emperorhui
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Electronic music that you dance to is EDM. Dance music that is electronic is EDM. :wtf: So why wouldn't it include hip-hop... or jungle? Or other genres I might have missed? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
Electronic music that you dance to is EDM. Dance music that is electronic is EDM. :wtf: So why wouldn't it include hip-hop... or jungle? Or other genres I might have missed? |
most hip-hop/rap isnt music :p , its more or less noise that is annoying :eek: . |
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| emperorhui |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
most hip-hop/rap isnt music :p , its more or less noise that is annoying :eek: . |
Word. People here seem to like it though... |
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| muckluck |
Well as I understand, Trance might be more popular in Europe because first (1990-1996/7) the biggest hits and most of the rest of trance was made by German and British people, then was taken up and taken over by Belgium, Netherlands, and Israel from '97 on or so. I mean sure GOA went farther back than that, but really the backbone of the music was British until the Israelis caught on...from the British EBM artists who heavily influenced the music by playing all the time in GOA in the late 80's early 90's, to guys like Raja Ram, Simon Posford, Man With No name, Eat Static, and Doof who emigrated to GOA from England to become some of the most influential artists in GOA music.
America doesn't really come into heavy direct influence to trance music , via producers anyway, until recently with the..."American Progressive" Markus Schulz McProg deal. There have always been American trance producers since almost the beginning, and good, but they just were never popular or numerous enough to make a large enough impact in America. |
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| Hydarnes |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
most hip-hop/rap isnt music :p , its more or less noise that is annoying :eek: . |
I couldn't agree with you more completely! |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by muckluck
Well as I understand, Trance might be more popular in Europe because first (1990-1996/7) the biggest hits and most of the rest of trance was made by German and British people, then was taken up and taken over by Belgium, Netherlands, and Israel from '97 on or so. I mean sure GOA went farther back than that, but really the backbone of the music was British until the Israelis caught on...from the British EBM artists who heavily influenced the music by playing all the time in GOA in the late 80's early 90's, to guys like Raja Ram, Simon Posford, and Doof who emigrated to GOA from England to become some of the most influential artists in GOA music.
America doesn't really come into heavy direct influence to trance music , via producers anyway, until recently with the..."American Progressive" Markus Schulz McProg deal. There have always been American trance producers since almost the beginning, and good, but they just were never popular or numerous enough to make a large enough impact in America. |
cause they were in it for the music not the money |
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| Hydarnes |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Dear God. House is American. Techno is American. American producers were the ones who discovered the handiness of the TB 303 and other famous pieces of kit, which wrote the rule-book for a generation of producers. Europe's contributions to EDM would likely never have happened if it weren't for American contributions.
Europe is not the centre of the universe for dance music. |
Excuse me for just one second! Europe IS IN FACT the contemporary center of the universe for dance music whether you like it or not (why do you think they call it "EURO-dance"? I LIVE IN AMERICA and we are simply the most distant country to trance/house/techno on this planet! Many people here haven't even heard eurodance in their lives! Please don't try to shove this rubbish down our throats and expect us to digest it. I live here, I KNOW! You live in England!
And your assertions about House and Techno originating in America COMPLETELY conflict with other sources stating that it originated in Germany. In the meantime, I'm going to investigate the full validity your claims. If you're referring to those 3 black guys that technically "started" techno-ish music in Detroit, then I might as well say that rock music started in Africa, and technically it did, but I think you're catching the drift. |
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| LeiWM06 |
| quote: | | Excuse me for just one second! Europe IS IN FACT the contemporary center of the universe for dance music whether you like it or not (why do you think they call it "EURO-dance"? I LIVE IN AMERICA and we are simply the most distant country to trance/house/techno on this planet! Many people here haven't even heard eurodance in their lives! |
No, Europe is the center for Trance, a branch of house, and European Dance Pop. In fact trance is probably concentrated in NL and Ibiza, and house and techno in the UK...
Ever been to New York City? House is probably more viberant in NY than NL. There are lots of DJs there that starts in Hip Hop and move to House and Techno... |
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| Hydarnes |
| I used "dance" as a generalized term for trance/house/dance/techno. After all, I'm running out of terms to use because some people want to include rap and hip-hop as "EDM". |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | | most hip-hop/rap isnt music , its more or less noise that is annoying . |
see, this is precisely why the ignore feature should prevent quotes from ignored users to appear
let's just say you're a little bit narrow-minded |
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| Aramis |
lol - There is so much German and British EDM that predates the quoted US "originators" that I can only laugh. Compare German and British synth-pop of the late 70's and early 80's to current Eurodance and you might begin to understand. Check out Kraftwerk, Art of Noise, Human League, New Order, Eurythmics, Bronski Beat/Communards and a gazillion others. And we're not talking obscure esoterica here, but mainstream top-ten pop that was thrashed both on the radio and in clubs
Trance and Eurodance are characterised by the total absence of the dick-swinging egotism that is intrinsic in not only US dance music, but in US pop culture in general. Try to step outside of the UScentric delusion and recognise that the US is of minimal significance in the evolution of trance and Eurodance - even Australia, Canada and Israel have contributed more! Well, ok - maybe not Australia :) |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
see, this is precisely why the ignore feature should prevent quotes from ignored users to appear
let's just say you're a little bit narrow-minded |
lol, i was joking :D
I still dig out some of my old albums :D |
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