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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazarusDJ
Yes but what does music have to do with intelligence? I wouldn't say that S&D are the worlds most intelligent DJs becuase they can count to 4. You just asked if I thought they were intelligent and I've no idea. I'm just curious as to why you can say they're to world's most intelligent DJs yet go on about how its nothing to do with IQ, schooling, and don't know either of them personally. |
well, what does vocabulary, or mathematics, or anything else have to do with intelligence? |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
He hosted one of the first ever DJ mix radio shows in the early-mid 80s, and through it pretty much pioneered the art of the modern club/dance DJ.
Three decks, a 909, and 70 records an hour. There is a reason why they call him 'The Wizard'. |
well 'The Wizard' best stop trainwrecking all those 70 records as it sounds like a tranny falling down some stairs. |
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| LazarusDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
well, what does vocabulary, or mathematics, or anything else have to do with intelligence? |
I'm still failing to see your point. Sasha & Digweed are the most intelligent DJs because......
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazarusDJ
I'm still failing to see your point. Sasha & Digweed are the most intelligent DJs because......
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the simple answer is that they can control their music control the envirnment & surrondings, and not to mention the sorry people they control for the 4 hours they are playing with the twist of a knob.:D |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
the simple answer is that they can control their music control the envirnment & surrondings, and not to mention the sorry people they control for the 4 hours they are playing with the twist of a knob.:D |
doesnt every dj thats in the top 20?
Tiesto Does
Paul Van Dyk Does
Armin Does
Sasha (duh!)
Ferry Corsten Does
Hernan Cattaneo Does
even judge jules does. |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
well 'The Wizard' best stop trainwrecking all those 70 records as it sounds like a tranny falling down some stairs. |
He should also stop being a gigantic pretentious arse as well as stop being a ing diva. |
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| LazarusDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
the simple answer is that they can control their music control the envirnment & surrondings, and not to mention the sorry people they control for the 4 hours they are playing with the twist of a knob.:D |
I'm very happy for you but you've described pretty much every DJ there is. This has got nothing to do with intelligence whatsoever.
Why are you even trying to intellectualise the club experience? When you go clubbing do you even have a good time or are you just sat there with a great big hardon about how intelligent you are for liking it?
Djs control the music and the environment. Thats what they're supposed to do. It doesn't make them intelligent for doing it. Bus drivers get paid to drive a bus around all day stopping where there's a bus stop. Being able to do this doesn't make them intelligent, it makes them a bus driver.
Personally I think you're talking out of your arse. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| I think someone's mixed up the words "skilled" and "intelligent". |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
He should also stop being a gigantic pretentious arse as well as stop being a ing diva. |
haha :haha: |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
doesnt every dj thats in the top 20?
Tiesto Does
Paul Van Dyk Does
Armin Does
Sasha (duh!)
Ferry Corsten Does
Hernan Cattaneo Does
even judge jules does. |
Ive seen all of these djs and there is a lot of diversity there so lets start off with judge jules
One of my friends saw him last night and this is what he said...
| quote: | | I quite love your analogies!! Fudge Fools was absolutely atrocious. Don't forget he played some awful remix of Traffic too (with We Will Rock You by Queen being sung in unison) |
so take from that what you want....
Now I will go to Tiesto...
I used to love the guy. His sets can be a rediculas amount of fun. He still can drop a bunch of really good tracks. When you go out to see him you should expect him to play some techy housy proggish stuff then move on to some mike like stuff, then go to some hard techy tracks.
I can understand how peopl love the guy. His 2000 Energy/innercity sets had a lot of good tracks. Same with his Dance Dept sets. Now the key word is "Tracks." Now the obvious difference between a trance dj is how he puts the two together, and how he approaches it. His style is like Carl cox. Verry rough, likes to drop lots of strong kicks in. Which is very good in a club, but could be disasterous if pulled off wrong. With something that raw it will do 1 of 2 things, either make you dance harder, or it will make you stop dancing, and make you think daym he just ed up. There really is not a middle ground. And that is what hurts his control. There really isn't much flow. Even if it is a few times in a set that he messes up, it can compleatly distroy the mood. But watchout when he is on...
Now TA's favorite dutch dj, Armin.
Back pre 00, he produced music like Blue Fear, Communication, the guy even made some house stuff. His fav of mine Is probably Dido. Now for me armin is the only DJ that has put his car in reverse. He used to play great prog house, and trance tracks that flowed really well. Stuff that actually had some substance, and creativity. His taste varied from multiple labels, and he actually played tracks no one knew.
22.00- 23.00
1. Jan Johnson- New York (Alphabet City promo)
2. M- Promo (Combined Forces)
3. Cape Town- Stringrizer (Bonzai)
4. Get Here (promo?)
5. Orion- See Me Here (Incentive Promo)
TUNE OF THE WEEK: 6. Ralphie B.- Massive (Blackhole promo)
7. Perpetuous Dreamer- The Sound of Goodbye (Armin van Buuren's Tribal Feel Vocal) (Armind Promo)
8. Warrior- Voodoo (Oliver Lieb Mix) (Incentive promo)
CLASSIC: 9. Underworld- Dark & Long (JBO, 1994)
23.00- 0.00 -> Armin van Buuren Non-stop in the mix
1. System F. feat. Armin van Buuren- Exhale (Ferry Corsten & Armin van Buuren new mix) (Acetate)
2. ?- Startheme (Armind/ Acetate)
3. Evolution- Crocodile man
4. Sister Bliss feat. John Martyn- Deliver Me (Lee Combs mix) (Blackhole)
5. Sonic Inc.- Taste of Summer
6. Infernal Machine- Realistic (Infernal machine remix) (Positiva promo)
7. Voodoo Dildo- Have I told you?
8. Signum- ? (promo BPM)
9. ?- Clear Blue Moon (Armind/ Acetate)
10. Liquidation- Theme from Liquid (Marco V. mix) (Acetate/ United)
look at that. Now compair it with the formulatic stuff he plays today. It lacks substance. His sets are all over the place. One thing that would help armin, would be if he bunched his techy tracks, or his proggy tracks in groups, you know play the proggy tracks in the beggining, then go harder at the end. Armin seems to have forgotten this. Ive seen him multiple times, and that is the main thing that is annoying. I just can't get into his sets. He will drop something hard and techy, then go play something like tilt- twelve. Peak time none the less, not talking about trying to slow the set down, to build it back up. On my last note, Armin left off 04, where he began his career remixing Blue Fear & Communication...
Now moving on to paul.
Paul is an odd case :). He has been producing and spinning since the early 90's, maybe even late 80s. His noticible style over the year has changed to many times. His beatmatching is quite rediculas. To put it into words, he may be one of the only djs that could spin 60 tracks in an hour, and make it sound good. Im not going to speak about his early'er years cause it would take a long time.
But Paul seems to have been the most emotional dj, possible ever? I think its safe to say that. Just about every track he plays has this meaning to him. And if you have ever seen him live, and watched him you know he could do just about anything to the crowd. This is a unique skill.
He could take the croud; slowly raise them all to the roof, then take his hand and just knock you silly till you think you are just going to explode, and the only limit is how hard the croud wants it. Paul seems to notice when the crowd is yearning, and wanting harder stuff there is basically no limit to what paul can play he could get as hard as the hardest techno available then he could drop something emotional and mess around with your feeling, then build it back up. He isn't the dj that is going to be jumping around, or giving fake smiles out to his croud. Unfortunately, paul does not play 5+ hour sets everywhere so its kind of hard to experience it. He seems to work his 2 hour sets differently from his longer ones. The short ones today are basically going to be 2 hours of hard fast trance @ like 145-150, which is probably going to be some of the fastest of the trance djs. But he basically gives up on the whole journey idea in thoes sets. It seems like the only thing he wants to do is full out rock the place from start to finish. Once he starts its not gonna stop till 2 hours later.
Now his 5+ hour sets can be quite an adventure. thats when he really takes control of people. He will normally start with some slower prog house, or trance, then slowly build the speed up and start cranking it. Then normally a few hours into it, paul will sow it down again and at that point you may be like WTF just happened to me the past three hours. The he will play a good hour of house & breaks. Yes house and breaks, but only in his longer sets. It is quite insane and just dirty. Then he will normally build it back up to the end. I have never felt dis-satisfied after a good pvd set.
Now hernan
I think he may be the newest one to DJ? Getting big a few years ago, I saw him once last year, it was quite good. I think im going to get his Renaissance cd becuase i have heard great reviews, but do not really know much about him other then that.
im to tired now to tipe more ill contune with the other 2 later... |
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| JakeC |
I didnt even read everything.
yes jules is atrocious but i bet you £10 that your mate danced or if he didnt he was on his own.
he got the crowd moving, he got the crowd into the building, he djed and went home.
they all get people dancing.
so you wasted 10+ mintues typing that out. :) |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazarusDJ
I'm very happy for you but you've described pretty much every DJ there is. This has got nothing to do with intelligence whatsoever.
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no clearly many djs have no idea what they are doing whatsoever and can not control their envirnment even if they have really good skills. |
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