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Edm Genres? (pg. 40)
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| JakeC |
then you could say breaks and garage arent apart of edm.
DJ Format appears in this fortnights DJmag which is an EDM magazine.
p diddy, kelis, 50 cent, tim westwood, panjabi hit squad, eminem, an article on sex in hip hop videos, an article on uk hip hop pirate radio stations, reviews for hip hop club nights and reviews of hip hop records
all appear in the dance music magazine Mixmag. |
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| UWM |
| Can someone start flaming or something? This is getting old. |
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| Sykonee |
*For UWM*
sandstorm03 forgot Horrorcore Rap (Gravediggaz, ICP, Twiztid). N00b! |
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| auranaut |
Hydarnes, those aren't internet authorities (like they even exist).
Those are blogs. :stongue:
EDIT: Oh, and the term hip-hop came from DJing, which is instrumental electronic music. Prove me wrong. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
Hydarnes, those aren't internet authorities (like they even exist).
Those are blogs. :stongue: |
No, no. We all know that urbandictionary.com is a credible source! |
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| Moral Hazard |
| despite the similarities that may exist between the present state of hip-hop/rap music and some genres of EDM one must only look at the origins of hip-hop in order to understand that it is not EDM. Hip-hop, or more acurately for the time... rap, started in the mid to late seventies (same time as EDM) as a off-shoot of funk/soul. Rap initially was done with bands backing up the rapper/mc. In time the bands were replaced by DJs mixing various funk/soul songs to form the music backing up the MC (think Grand Master Flash). The addition of synthetic drums didn't happen until the early to mid eighties (think Run DMC). Synthetic drums and organic (albeit reproduced) melodies were the norm from the mid eighties through to the mid to late nineties. In the late nineties a splintering of hip-hop occured where you now have hip-hop over synthetic drums and organic melodies, all synthetic sound, all organic sound, and any mixture you can think of, however, it is largely still Synthetic bass and sampled organic melodies. Regardless of the similarities between some hip-hop and some EDM you cannot argue that the origines are the same and therefore you cannot consider them to be related. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
Hydarnes, those aren't internet authorities (like they even exist).
Those are blogs. :stongue:
EDIT: Oh, and the term hip-hop came from DJing, which is instrumental electronic music. Prove me wrong. |
| quote: | Geographical Origins
Hip hop music is related to the griots of West Africa, traveling singers and poets whose musical style is reminiscent of hip hop. Some griot traditions came with slaves to the New World. The most important direct influence on the creation of hip hop music is the Jamaican style of toasting. Toasting is the act of talking or chanting over a rhythm or beat. This was initially developed in Jamaica during the 1960s. Toasting developed at dances in Jamaica known as "blues dances". "Blues dances" were dances which took place in large halls or out in the open in the slum yards. "Blues dances" were a regular feature of ghetto life in Jamaica. At these dances black American R&B records were played. Jamaicans were introduced to these records by black American sailors stationed on the island and by American radio stations in and around Miami which played R&B records. MCs from sound systems employed the technique to further enhance their dub plates. As time progressed the MCs would become more creative in their chants, eventually overshadowing the tunes they were initially supposed to enhance. This led to the earliest forms of what is know known as dancehall in Jamaica and hip hop in the US. (Source: Wikipedia, and Yale-New Haven Teachers Institute) |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
then you could say breaks and garage arent apart of edm.
DJ Format appears in this fortnights DJmag which is an EDM magazine.
p diddy, kelis, 50 cent, tim westwood, panjabi hit squad, eminem, an article on sex in hip hop videos, an article on uk hip hop pirate radio stations, reviews for hip hop club nights and reviews of hip hop records
all appear in the dance music magazine Mixmag. |
| quote: | | Mixmag The Worlds Biggest Clubbing and Dance Music Magazine |
It does NOT say EDM |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
It does NOT say EDM |
Electronic Dance Music |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
Electronic Dance Music |
Yes it says dance music, good job... |
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| Hydarnes |
Well stated Moral Hazard. Unfortunately, appeals to wishful emotions and pet opinionated sentiments will continue to prevent some on this board from acknowledging the fact at the exclusion of logic. This debate was concluded long ago.
| quote: | | Regardless of the similarities between some hip-hop and some EDM you cannot argue that the origines are the same and therefore you cannot consider them to be related. |
Well, I don't know if you can say that they are totally unrelated because rapping has been incorporated into many forms of EDM, and it contemporarily uses a lot of electronic sounds and synthesizers. Nevertheless, I totally agree that rap does not belong in the "EDM" category. |
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| Hydarnes |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
Hydarnes, those aren't internet authorities (like they even exist).
Those are blogs. :stongue:
EDIT: Oh, and the term hip-hop came from DJing, which is instrumental electronic music. Prove me wrong. |
I don't believe I specifically referred to the sources I quoted in that reference as "authorities", although I did mention that numerous authorities agree with this conclusion. |
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