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JakeC
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Originally posted by tiesto14


Basically the way i see it is europe embraced it.

You can also not get more mainstream than Hip Hop.
emperorhui
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Originally posted by tiesto14
Without HOUSE and TECHNO you would have NO TRANCE...get it tough guy?
And without DISCO you would have NO HOUSE and TECHNO...get that rubber neck?

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo in conclusion::
Disco -> House -> Techno -> Trance

see the timeline fool?
And where did Disco come from? hhhmmm the U.S.
And where did House come from? hhhmmm the U.S.
And where did Techno get revolutionalized? hhhmmm the U.S.

YOu can not talk about Trance without mentioning it's roots!

You little kids have zero knowledge of EDM....Ishkur knows more then you man...matter fact...as much as a i disagree with Ishkur...he does have knowledge on EDM....sometimes distorted...but smart none the less.:D


This is a good argument at the historical level in terms of the founders and pioneers of genres. But when you rewrite that in social [and possibly economic?] terms, you have very little US influence. As I recall, it was a few people from the UK who brought electronic music to raves [which supposedly originated in India?]. The US has produced the pioneers of many types of music particularly rock and hip-hop. Most of modern music was started by American artists. I'd love to say that we 'own' pretty much everyone's modern music, but I wouldn't call every genre made by American artists American genres since the UK had much to do with bringing the music to the masses. Would the music even be around today if no one listened to it?
emperorhui
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
the good drugs were invented in the us as well, then Europe picked up on it...:eek:

like it or not drugs are a big part of the scene


ROFL. Yes they sure are... :D
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by emperorhui
ROFL. Yes they sure are... :D


Why do you think acid house became so popular?
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Why do you think acid house became so popular?


acid sounds funny :wtf:
tiesto14
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Oh shut up. You're reading what isn't actually there. Where did I say was the US's fault for EDM becoming popular in the UK? Where did I say it was a bad thing? Anywhere? I'm no ing elitist, although it sounds like you are. EDM in the mainstream is a very good thing to me. It means I get hold of it more easily.



Where did i imply u said it was the US's fault?
Where did i say you said it was a bad thing?
You are ALSO reading what isnt there!

Am i an elitist? to a degree.

EDM being mainstream makes it easier for you to get a hold of it easily? Why it;s hard now?..lol
tiesto14
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Originally posted by emperorhui
This is a good argument at the historical level in terms of the founders and pioneers of genres. But when you rewrite that in social [and possibly economic?] terms, you have very little US influence. As I recall, it was a few people from the UK who brought electronic music to raves [which supposedly originated in India?]. The US has produced the pioneers of many types of music particularly rock and hip-hop. Most of modern music was started by American artists. I'd love to say that we 'own' pretty much everyone's modern music, but I wouldn't call every genre made by American artists American genres since the UK had much to do with bringing the music to the masses. Would the music even be around today if no one listened to it?



Where did i say Trance is an American genre?

He was talking about the evolution of Trance...and i enlightened him on the history of Trance...which did in fact evolve from House music...and House music did evolve from Disco....Disco and House ARE American genres..that is a fact.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by tiesto14
Where did i imply u said it was the US's fault?
Where did i say you said it was a bad thing?
You are ALSO reading what isnt there!

Am i an elitist? to a degree.

EDM being mainstream makes it easier for you to get a hold of it easily? Why it;s hard now?..lol


If you quote my post, I tend to assume you're arguing with it, especially if you don't put something like "I agree" near the start.
tiesto14
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If you quote my post, I tend to assume you're arguing with it, especially if you don't put something like "I agree" near the start.



You know what they say when you "assume" right?

you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me":p
Liquid Fusion
you think someone should make a sticky with the difference between each genre or somethin like this...cause i never thought this thread would be this big...i guess its a huge issue then?

sandstorm03
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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion
you think someone should make a sticky with the difference between each genre or somethin like this...cause i never thought this thread would be this big...i guess its a huge issue then?




lol... who do you appoint to that position? what would that accomplish? and why does it even matter?
Sykonee
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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion
you think someone should make a sticky with the difference between each genre or somethin like this...cause i never thought this thread would be this big...i guess its a huge issue then?

Naw. It was just that whole Hip-Hop = EDM arguement spawned a wild debate. I'm surprised no one just gave up on it after Hydarnes proved himself to be a lover of the taste of his own foot.

PS: If hip-hop isn't EDM, then what would that make The Movement's hit single Jump!, as it combines both old rave hardcore with hip-hop. (they coined it 'hip-no' -wonder why that never caught on.:wtf: ).
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