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Pictures of your Home studio (pg. 257)
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
Wat.
I think a UPS is OK if you want some peace of mind that peaks are getting smoothed out or have some power issues in your house. However, with this Furman stuff, we're talking about hardcore diminishing returns. Power quality in first world countries is insane. If the power supply that came with your electronics can't handle the tolerances of your electricity supply, then it is a ty power supply, you have issues in your house or you accidentally live in Cambodia. |
There you go, my perspective exactly |
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| Looney4Clooney |
bad power is the main reason computers and electronics fail. A little surge is all it takes to blow a capacitor. computers are even more vulnerable.
rare ? sure
are hardrive crashes rare ?
i had 3 drives fail out of 100
was the loss worth not spending 500 - 1000 on a UPS. you have the money. It is a no brainer
And surge protectors are a joke. |
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| Raphie |
but then again i bought the furmans just for cable management and easy on/off not for surge protection or filtering.
data should be secured by backups I don't understand how you even are willing to play with 20 external harddrives.
get pro like i did: buy a 10 bay nas run a mirrored raid5 or higher and sync it daily with a cloud storage service.
got 20TB mirrored in to raid 5 sets and those get synced daily with my cloud storage.
stop ing around with extenral hardrives, it's amateur and lame. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
i update as required.
and your method would be called amateur.
there are 2 different ways you want to back up. Incremental and then hot-swappable. That is why i have the drives. If anything happens at any time, i am up in running in 5 minutes. But if all you do is copy bad data, then there is no point really.
and i use raid 5. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie, L4C & EchoSystem
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What the are you lot talking about?
1, UPS usually serve one function: Allow a battery backup should the power drop below a certain threshold. Some, like the one that is 2 foot from me now, also have rudimentary surge protection and act as a various amp multiplug outlet, but other than that that's all the do.
So I don't know why you think that there's any "power conditioning" as such.
Want proof? The top of the line UPS unit from APC (biggest company) only specs out at 5% THD. That's the same threshold for a normal household socket. The threshold for "distortion" in audio is 3% THD and every power conditioner out there aims to be far lower than that.
Also, the voltage steps on most UPS are +/-10v, Cheap Power conditioners =/-5v and expensive ones or regenerators are +/-1v.
2, In line capacitance is not power conditioning. It just stops unwanted oscillation of voltage. Nothing more.
3, Products like powerplant do not make audio dull (unless all this time you've been perceiving the noise and coloration caused by dirty power, emi, rfi, etc as pleasing to your ears). The studio I work for just invested $40,000 in a massive industrial version of that to power the whole building. It's not smoke and mirrors - it completely decouples you from all the dirty power and equipment feedback from other other users. They basically take a massive 400v feed, change it to DC then generate a pure and pristine AC feed again.
4, Cheap power conditioners are not worth the $30 of components in the $200 box. They are nothing more than glorified multiplugs with the convenience of rack mounting.
5, Balanced power regulators, Hz rectifiers, Isolation transformers and Voltage regulators are worth every penny - and by this I mean the expensive ones.
The PS audio unit that Raphie had, does <0.8% THD, and it one of the best units out there for clean power and isolation.
however the ideal setup would be
PS Audio generator ---> Power Balancer. That way, you get the lowest possible THD, no EMI, RFI, No DC, and then have fully balanced power so no noise and a much higher noise floor. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| So wuts the best power conditioner you can get? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
APC are rubbish. That is a poor example.
You should have a UPS regardless, and a decent one will take care of pretty much everything and it also comes with insurance. More bang for your buck. I mean at least start with cyberpower in the 300 -500 range. APC don't even provide an actual pure sine wave.
The furmann power conditioners, i mean the high end AVR or their version of it boasts 120 +/- 5 V that isn't 5% 5 V
THe most fragile component in your studio is your computer. UPS tend to deal with computers. They just have more experience , sell way more units and have more money for RnD. |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
WOW!, Looooooong time man. Welcome back. Where you been hiding?
, with Echosystem, MNinja, Lolo and Alanzo posting it's like the early 2000's up in here |
:D i just got bored of talking about music eventually and spent a few years actually making it! haha.
and to make this thread relevant again, here's my dirty studio.
 lol
i use this for power conditioning... http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2140
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
APC are rubbish.
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Every datacenter I have worked in begs to differ.
Sure, they might not be competitive in the $100 range, but at that price level it's really just a debate of who's smells the least. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
:D i just got bored of talking about music eventually and spent a few years actually making it! haha.
and to make this thread relevant again, here's my dirty studio.
i use this for power conditioning... http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2140
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Lol, I love studios like that. I'd be worried about roaches and but you know when you see a studio like that, it's one that get some serious use.
Back on to the whole power condition thing, Echo is right, all of the consumer ones that are dirt cheap are all .
However, I'm going to resurrect the power conditioner thread from a while ago so as not to pollute this one too much..... |
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| Evolve140 |
| Nice sherlock bro. Blaze one for me |
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| tehlord |
Gonna build me a 2U Double width rack box to go where my ghetto shelf is right now to mount the Saffire and maybe some outboard in. Maybe a Lexicon PCM and TC Fireworx.
Got some space on the rack over on the right for moar synths now too.
And I know, the photo editing is so badass.
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