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TranceAddict Investors Club @ Marketocracy (pg. 158)
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
So does that mean you would've rated it a BUY 2 weeks ago before they reported earnings when the stock was trading at $38? |
No. My valuation and rating are separate models. I can have a SELL rating on a stock, and have it under valued. The valuation ratios (PE, PS, PB) are incorporated into my rating, but represent only 20% of the rating. So if the stock had valuation ratios below the sector average which would raise the rating, the other measures, such as Dividend Yield, Earnings Yield, Return on Equity, Current Ratio, Debt Ratio, Debt-Income would bring the rating right back down because those results for ADS are unsatisfactory. |
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| saluyamo |
I think its more than my gut telling me that there is going to be a dip soon.
4 (5 if it continues today) days of staying near the same level. Just around 9100 seems to be the resistance level
MCAD 10day line is going down
I've noticed twice before the current rally that the market goes flat for around a little more than a week. after that the market falls taking off 200 points each time. |
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| hiram |
im about to dump my Apple and take my %39 profit. approaching its 52 week high.
ill probably take some of that and buy Alcoa when it pulls back.
anybody been looking into CY? |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by hiram
im about to dump my Apple and take my %39 profit. approaching its 52 week high.
ill probably take some of that and buy Alcoa when it pulls back.
anybody been looking into CY? |
Glancing at CY, I wouldn't touch it. Negative earnings with a price close to its 52 week high? What are you thinking? |
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| Capitalizt |
This is not a bull market folks.. Rising stock markets and oil prices are simply a reflection of a dollar bear market. Check out a 6 month chart of the US Dollar Index:
and a 6 month chart of the S&P500..
Notice the near perfect inverse correlation? The dollar spikes in early march and the markets go down in price. Dollar declines in the dollowing months and the market price of stocks goes up. The markets are acting like gold and silver used to act..rising and falling to reflect the purchasing power of the dollars that they are priced in. If the dollar drops 5% and the market rises 5%, you are no better off than you were before..so this is not a true "bull" move. You've simply preserved what you had before (and are actually worse off when you factor in trading costs + capital gains taxes). Will markets continue going up? Probably..and you are certainly better off putting paper dollars in anything that might preserve their purchasing power. Just keep in mind that the government is spending like mad..adding another $2 trillion to the debt in 2009 alone, and the federal reserve has "loaned" far in excess of that amount to private companies.. This money being put into circulation (spent and loaned) was nonexistent 12 months ago, and is guaranteed to devalue the money already in existence.. The effects won't be felt immediately so my advice is not to get too euphoric and spend-happy when you see your portfolio value increasing, because you will be paying a large invisible tax on those gains in the coming years. |
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| saluyamo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
This money being put into circulation (spent and loaned) was nonexistent 12 months ago, |
When/if this money is all used up and assmuning no more is put in by the Fed will the markets take a dive? |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by saluyamo
When/if this money is all used up and assmuning no more is put in by the Fed will the markets take a dive? |
Nobody knows. Depends on whether all of these programs and the economy can gain traction and stay on the bike with the training wheels off. |
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| spdandpwr |
This is unrelated, but the other day when I was browsing the net, looking for jobs (I always look for jobs to see what new skillsets to learn), I came across the address of a firm in New York that looked worthwhile. I then decided to Google search the address to see what offices looked like and found that there are other businesses within that complex, so I googled them all as well and came across this:
http://eriscap.com/home
This firm uses the same coding, copy, and design as Krypton's Betapeg website: http://www.finance.com/
What gives? |
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| Krypton |
Looks like they are using the exact same template I am...:(
Yahoo Small Business, "finance" template. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Looks like they are using the exact same template I am...:(
Yahoo Small Business, "finance" template. |
i just browsed your site for the first time, and i have a few comments that may be helpful to you (or not! ;)). anyway, as i was looking through your first quarter stock ratings i was confused about something (perhaps it's just the labeling). How can a stock have a grade A and a value of expensive (see MRK), yet another stock have a grade F and a value of expensive (see OSIR)? Intuitively, someone would think that an expensive means the stock is overvalued and should not be purchased, unless the basis for calling it expensive is simply the sale price without further analysis - which doesn't seem to be the case because AA with a current stock price of 13 is valued as "expensive", while XOM with a current stock price of 70 is valued as "fair value." The point i'm trying to make is that, without explanation of the labels, it looks like your valuations and grading are inconsistent.
Also, you should work on your wordsmithing. I know that may seem trivial, but since you have big aspirations you should certainly put forth your content in the most clear and grammatically correct way possible. Sorry to be the grammar police (or what-have-you), but hopefully it will help you in the long term. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i just browsed your site for the first time, and i have a few comments that may be helpful to you (or not! ;)). anyway, as i was looking through your first quarter stock ratings i was confused about something (perhaps it's just the labeling). How can a stock have a grade A and a value of expensive (see MRK), yet another stock have a grade F and a value of expensive (see OSIR)? Intuitively, someone would think that an expensive means the stock is overvalued and should not be purchased, unless the basis for calling it expensive is simply the sale price without further analysis - which doesn't seem to be the case because AA with a current stock price of 13 is valued as "expensive", while XOM with a current stock price of 70 is valued as "fair value." The point i'm trying to make is that, without explanation of the labels, it looks like your valuations and grading are inconsistent.
Also, you should work on your wordsmithing. I know that may seem trivial, but since you have big aspirations you should certainly put forth your content in the most clear and grammatically correct way possible. Sorry to be the grammar police (or what-have-you), but hopefully it will help you in the long term. |
Thanks for the comments. A stock can have great fundamentals but be expensive. Not in the sense of a $100 stock versus a $50 stock. But that a $100 stock worth $150 is cheap, while a $20 stock worth $15 is expensive. Even though the $100 seems like the more expensive stock, it actually is the cheaper of the two. Also, bad companies can be very undervalued. Such as Citigroup (C) when it was trading at just $1. I had a rating of "possible bankruptcy" but with an "ultra cheap" valuation on it. It ended up quadrupling.
The site needs some work, I just need to find the time again, as I've been busy with school and finding an internship. But today is the last day of finals, and I'v finally found the internship, so I have 3 weeks off school to work on it. |
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