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Shakka
Who are the Big 4 these days anyway?

PWC, Ernst & Young, Accenture & Deloitte?
Shakka
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Originally posted by Kinezi
Hedious.


So is your spelling!
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by Shakka
Who are the Big 4 these days anyway?

PWC, Ernst & Young, Accenture & Deloitte?


KPMG, PwC, E&Y, and Deloitte. Accenture is the management consulting arm that spun off from authur andersen prior to its collapse.
Kinezi
I always find investing in share market very diffcult.. its tough to pick one or three shares that may outperform from the rest of like 300 shares listed.. it always easy for me track one particular instrument, wait for the right setup and time.. and get in with least risk to reward ratio..

I havent checked your MF stuff... but has anyone of you beaten track record of 150% return in 2 months time with a maximal drawdown of 15%?
Krypton
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Originally posted by Kinezi
I always find investing in share market very diffcult.. its tough to pick one or three shares that may outperform from the rest of like 300 shares listed.. it always easy for me track one particular instrument, wait for the right setup and time.. and get in with least risk to reward ratio..

I havent checked your MF stuff... but has anyone of you beaten track record of 150% return in 2 months time with a maximal drawdown of 15%?


You'll get that from high risk trades. Can you continue getting that 150% forever? When does the luck finally run out?
Krypton
From my blog... http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost...118238083724724



BUD really worth $65 a share? My BUD play.

June 12, 2008 – Comments (4) | RELATED TICKERS: BUD

In financial terms, NO. But BUD has something many other companies do not have. A super-brand. That is the only thing which justifies a $65 buy-out price. My advice to any long-term BUD stockholder's is...SELL. Preferably sell right now. Get out. Take your profit. The deal is questionable. Why? Nationalist opposition has arisen (www.saveab.com) to prevent BUD from being sold to foreign investors. I advise profitting now because the price is close enough to the $65 bid price that you might as well take it and leave. If the deal falls through, BUD's stock price will plummet to the high $40's. Do not risk getting caught in that landslide. If the bid is accepted, so what? You would have gotten out at just under the bid price and still profitted handsomely.

My own estimates of BUD's value in strictly financial terms (not taking into account qualitative aspects such as brand), is that BUD is worth $28 billion or $39 a share. $47 a share is what I value BUD currently. This is the justification behind my prediction that if the deal falls through, the stock price will plummet to the high $40's. BUD's financial quality is stagnant. It is not losing money, but it is not growing. They have too much debt on the balance sheet in my opinion and it has been increasing the last four quarters.

But again, we come back to BUD's qualititative factors. The Anhueser-Busch brand. That in itself represents a huge chunk of BUD's intrinsic value. Will I say BUD is worth $39 a share as a take-over value. No. This estimate does not account for qualitative values.

My playbook on BUD if I were a long-term shareholder is...Sell now, take profit, and if the deal falls through, buy BUD again at a much lower price.
Krypton
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Moongoose
You seem to be doing well. I on the other hand havent been paying attentioj to whats been going on for the last few days, so today when i check on my tech fund i find this. unpredictable little buggers these funds. I mean stay away for a couple of days because you are studying for an exam (on investments and banking , go figure) and they plummet like mad.
Esteban1337
At least I'm doing better than the rest of the market... Sometimes... lol
$$$
Kinezi
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Originally posted by Krypton
You'll get that from high risk trades. Can you continue getting that 150% forever? When does the luck finally run out?


As I said there is strict terms in the contract where it is mentioned that when there is 20% drawdown on current capital that one need to exit the trade immediatly. This 20% has never been touched, maximum drawdown was 16.42%..

The client invested 10,000 USD in April, and now it is 25,200 USD.. the day any single transaction or multiple transactions placed in market at the same time faces loss of more than 5000 USD (20% of current 25k equity) than all the trades will be closed automatically.. at this juncture the client still has 100% return ie 10,000 usd to take home and its his decision to take the entire capital or just the profit/his initial investment amount and leave the rest for further investment. High risks trades? But the risks are limited with this drawdown theory in practice.

And yes no one cant have 150% forever.. but in not unusual to have 30-50% return. But actually in reality the return increases as the capital increases.. see it was difficult to get first 50% return on 10,000 investment (took one month), but when the capital reached 18-20,000 USD.. it was easy get remaining 5000 USD return.

You will understand that by looking at the statement I am attaching:

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Krypton
If it works, it works. I plan on getting into day-trading eventually. But you got to have money to make money. I'm at the stage where I don't any money. Sold my portfolio to help feed the family while my mom lost her job. I would have had thousands of dollars today. She got a new one, so I'm going to ask for $2000 to restore my credit and savings like to the way they were before she lost employment.
Kinezi
Day-Trading never works, infact trading never works.. only 'investment' works.. IMHO.
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