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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
Somebody obviously hacked those government sites and changed the wording to make it appear ******** made a mistake. |
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| w_ashley |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
A case you lost, correct? |
There is no win and lose just results. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
There is no win and lose just results. |
But you admitted that you lost the case when you said you tried to appeal it. :stongue: |
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| w_ashley |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
(2) A person shall not be found to have contravened subsection (1) if it is established that the person attempted to verify that the person was at least eighteen years of age by asking for and being shown documentation prescribed for the purposes of verifying age, and believed on reasonable grounds that the documentation was authentic.
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11. No person, unless exempted by the regulations, shall sell a tobacco product by means of a display that permits a person to handle the tobacco product before paying for it.
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45. Every person who contravenes section 8, 9, 11 or 12, or any retailer who contravenes section 29, is guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction
(a) for a first offence, to a fine not exceeding $3,000; and
(b) for a subsequent offence, to a fine not exceeding $50,000.
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http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/T-11.5/page-3.html
Cited DIRECTLY from the legislative code.
Oh, my, Mr. Ashley. That's a quote from the Tobacco Act.
You seem to be either fooled or prevaricating yourself into a corner. |
I was 23 and she beleived me to be 23 the sections you quoted were not applicable because my age was not expressed as in doubt, on the contrary she beleived me to be of age.
Nothing you quoted is applicable to the situation. Your knowledge of the legal matters here are nonsense.
“young person”
« jeune »
“young person” means a person under eighteen years of age.
THUS NOT APPLICABLE READ THE WHOLE ACT AND TRY AGAIN SORRY |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
There is no win and lose just results. |
Results:
You = bull charging a high-speed train.
Your brains are coming out of your ass-hole. From the initial discharge of your bowels to the seemingly endless churn of your body-parts violently tucked underneath the front of the locomotive, you may now be measured in the length of gore traversing over five miles of track.
Not a win? I should think not.
Not a loss? Quit trying to paint an unmitigated disaster in the hues of Zen you profess to see the world through.
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
I was 23 and she beleived me to be 23 the sections you quoted were not applicable because my age was not expressed as in doubt, on the contrary she beleived me to be of age.
Nothing you quoted is applicable to the situation. Your knowledge of the legal matters here are nonsense.
“young person”
« jeune »
“young person” means a person under eighteen years of age.
THUS NOT APPLICABLE READ THE WHOLE ACT AND TRY AGAIN SORRY |
And this - did you even bother to read the law which requires them to verify. Hence, they are not allowed to use supposition, hunches, or even their own beliefs in order to substantiate a defense, should it be determined that a pack of cigarettes was inadvertently sold to a minor; they must verify that you are of age. |
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| w_ashley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
For the record, it clearly states in the Tobacco Control Act of 1994:
A sign that is in English shall read as follows:
“19? Prove it. Where age is in question the law says we must ask for I.D. when you ask for tobacco. Acceptable I.D.: Ontario driver’s licence, Cdn. passport, Cdn. citizenship card, LLBO photo card, Cdn. Armed Forces I.D. card.”
Just because someone might think you are of particular age, does not mean that the age is not in question. Asking for ID proves that she wasn't certain, regardless of what she may or may not have thought. It is your obligation then to "prove it" as the act states.
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/re...gs_940613_e.htm |
Once again your point is irrelevant the requirement to post a sign and the ability to sell for someone believed to be over the legal age is two different matters.
Sorry try again. This is not applicable to the sale this act specifies required signage. Signs are not laws, but laws requiring signs are. Likewise this is not the law which establishes the grounds of sale, only the grounds of display of signage required by the government for sale.
Wrong act, try again.
The actual law stated that the point of sale has the right to request ID to be produced if the person is believed to be under the age of legal sale. After my case this was changed to believed to be under the age of 25. As I stated already.
The point I have made multiple times is that she stated she believed me to be of age, thus at the time of the incident there were no grounds to refuse sale.
While yes there was a sign, signs arn't laws. Signs are advisories. There is a difference in the two. Learn the law, not the sign. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
I was 23 and she beleived me to be 23 the sections you quoted were not applicable because my age was not expressed as in doubt, on the contrary she beleived me to be of age.
Nothing you quoted is applicable to the situation. Your knowledge of the legal matters here are nonsense.
“young person”
« jeune »
“young person” means a person under eighteen years of age.
THUS NOT APPLICABLE READ THE WHOLE ACT AND TRY AGAIN SORRY |
Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, if somebody asks for your ID in order to sell you something that you need to be of legal age for, then you must provide it or you aren't going to get what you want. In addition, you have absolutely no ing right to walk into a store, reach where you're not supposed to be and then utter the word "assault" when someone puts their hand on you because you're in a place that is off limits to customers.
Face it, you ed up. If you communicate at all in real life like you communicate here, then chances are significantly high that you came off as stark raving mad and violent. I can say with the utmost certainty that you deserved to get pepper-sprayed.
What astonishes me is that everybody you come into contact with is telling you that you have a mental problem, yet you refuse to accept it. |
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| Sushipunk |
I can't believe this thread has more pages than the Pictars thread.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! |
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| epicaricacy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! |
do you really want to know?
most people in the cor are ugly as anyway, myself included:p |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
I can't believe this thread has more pages than the Pictars thread.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! |
Moot.
It DOESN"T! IT WAS HAACKED TO GENoRATE A NEW PAGE PER FEUER POSTS! |
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