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New York Yankees Thread (THIS THING OF OURS) (pg. 108)
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ludawg23
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
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unfortunately true. |
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| steven-neil |
Until anything is proven otherwise people should get off Barry Bonds case...The dude is a legend,,plain and simple...
I did some of my best work high on cocaine and E's...Not one person complained... |
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| clubamerica |
| Hello peeps i am from California,wanted to drop by and say that out here in CALI the YANKS also have some BIGTIME FANS like my sister.SHE LOVES THE YANKS.She wants to move out to NY whene she turns 18 just so she can be closer to her beloved YANKS.:disbelief |
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| verndogs |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by steven-neil
Until anything is proven otherwise people should get off Barry Bonds case...The dude is a legend,,plain and simple...
I did some of my best work high on cocaine and E's...Not one person complained... |
the reason why Bonds is getting this treatment now is because of his reputation, plain and simple. the dude has been a jerk off the field so he's deservedly getting his due rewards right now
karma is indeed a bitch |
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| djstopngo |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
the reason why Bonds is getting this treatment now is because of his reputation, plain and simple. the dude has been a jerk off the field so he's deservedly getting his due rewards right now
karma is indeed a bitch |
Yes and no. I think the perception of Bonds as a person certainly hasn't helped him win fans outside of the Bay Area over but, then again, neither have the heaps of accusations swirling around him and performance enhancers.
In my opinion, when they finally close the book on Bonds it will read that he was one of the greatest players of all time and that he used performance enhancing drugs. Does he deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? I say, yes, absolutely. If you look at his numbers before the accused "steroid bump" he's still one of the greatest of all time. As a younger player he was dominant in almost every statistic - Runs, SBs, RBI's, OBP, HRs, (2 MVPs) etc etc. The sad part about the Home Run record is that it will forever cloud the greatness that was the young Barry Bonds - he won't be remembered as the guy who averaged 100 RBIs, 30 HRs and 30 stolen bases.
Personally, I hate Barry Bonds and I hope A-Rod surpasses him. It's worth considering how good Griffey would've been if he used steroids - I say frighteningly good.
I also don't think the Home Run record is the most impressive record in baseball. Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak and Williams' over .400 BA for an entire season are both much more impressive. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djstopngo
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I also don't think the Home Run record is the most impressive record in baseball. Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak and Williams' over .400 BA for an entire season are both much more impressive.
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I agree that barry bonds is one of the greatest of all time, but I also think that he deserves all the negative attention he gets. The negative attention isn't a result of him using steroids, it's about how he handles the whole thing. Even during the press conference after he hit aaron tying homerun he still managed to sound like an arrogant dick. An for anyone who feels bad for the guy, DON'T. I refuse to feel bad for a guy whos salary is more than the budget of most towns.
Agreed that Dimaggio's record is the toughest. To be able to hit so consistently over such a long period is amazing. In fact, only ten times since dimaggio's streak ended has a player had a hit streak of 31 games or more.
A ton of guys can smack homeruns. I'm not impressed by players like Adam Dunn, i think there is much more talent (and luck) involved in the hit streak. |
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| Rockabye |
Mets > Yankees
Bonds sucks. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
I agree that barry bonds is one of the greatest of all time, but I also think that he deserves all the negative attention he gets. The negative attention isn't a result of him using steroids, it's about how he handles the whole thing. Even during the press conference after he hit aaron tying homerun he still managed to sound like an arrogant dick. An for anyone who feels bad for the guy, DON'T. I refuse to feel bad for a guy whos salary is more than the budget of most towns.
Agreed that Dimaggio's record is the toughest. To be able to hit so consistently over such a long period is amazing. In fact, only ten times since dimaggio's streak ended has a player had a hit streak of 31 games or more.
A ton of guys can smack homeruns. I'm not impressed by players like Adam Dunn, i think there is much more talent (and luck) involved in the hit streak. |
I'd say the 59 scoreless inning streak is even harder than the hitting streak. |
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| verndogs |
how about breaking tom seaver's 10 consecutive strikeouts in a row? where does that rank?
i was actually in Arizona when I saw Peavy strike out 9 diamondbacks in a row. that was just sick to see in person |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
how about breaking tom seaver's 10 consecutive strikeouts in a row? where does that rank?
i was actually in Arizona when I saw Peavy strike out 9 diamondbacks in a row. that was just sick to see in person |
While that's amazing, it is something that can happen in one day, so to me it's not as impressive.
The 59 scoreless innings streak is just as impressive as a hit streak. It's consistency over a long period. That's over a month without letting up a run, damn impressive. |
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