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New York Yankees Thread (THIS THING OF OURS) (pg. 23)
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jerZ07002
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Originally posted by steven-neil
jerZ,,,explain to me why Torre took Pettitte out when he was dominating Boston.....


because like i've been saying for years....torre a bad manager. He's been making judgement errors for years. It's only that his players are so good that he gets away with so many of his mistakes.

As for pettitte, i didn't watch that part of the game but i think he put the first two on base in either the sixth/seventh inning. That's usually a good reason to take someone out that late in the game. My question is why did proctor pitch to only 2 hitters? He's clearly the most effective pitcher in the bull pen at the moment. Why are you taking him out to ultimately bring in someone who was shelled for 4 runs the previous game? And why did torre bring in meyers when ortiz lead the inning off. I've never liked moves like that. Proctor should have stayed in the game, pitched to ortiz, and then manny. But, wtf, can't change the past.

beckett will get shelled in ten minutes.
steven-neil
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
because like i've been saying for years....torre a bad manager. He's been making judgement errors for years. It's only that his players are so good that he gets away with so many of his mistakes.

As for pettitte, i didn't watch that part of the game but i think he put the first two on base in either the sixth/seventh inning. That's usually a good reason to take someone out that late in the game. My question is why did proctor pitch to only 2 hitters? He's clearly the most effective pitcher in the bull pen at the moment. Why are you taking him out to ultimately bring in someone who was shelled for 4 runs the previous game? And why did torre bring in meyers when ortiz lead the inning off. I've never liked moves like that. Proctor should have stayed in the game, pitched to ortiz, and then manny. But, wtf, can't change the past.

beckett will get shelled in ten minutes.


Yep,,,,He's getting hit all over the place....
steven-neil
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Originally posted by steven-neil
Yep,,,,He's getting hit all over the place....


Although so is Karstens
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by steven-neil
Although so is Karstens


you had to expect that. I wasn't expecting a win today, but i wasn't expecting beckett to pitch well. It's time their staff comes back down to reality. And wtf is up with the ass kissing being done by mccarver and buck. Seriously, if i have to hear one more time about how good the starting rotation is im going to choke the outta someone. What a bunch of idiots. You can't evaluate a pitching staff on 15 games.
ludawg23
break out the brooms.
steven-neil
quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
you had to expect that. I wasn't expecting a win today, but i wasn't expecting beckett to pitch well. It's time their staff comes back down to reality. And wtf is up with the ass kissing being done by mccarver and buck. Seriously, if i have to hear one more time about how good the starting rotation is im going to choke the outta someone. What a bunch of idiots. You can't evaluate a pitching staff on 15 games.


ok jerZ...Thompson left field....No Melke or Damon till the ninth...(explain please)
Also about the commentators,,,you're right it was like watching a game on NESN...
Matsui back on Tuesday,,,how does he fit in,,what happens to Melke and Thompson
Mussina and Wang back to face RedSox at the Bronx....
djstopngo
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Originally posted by steven-neil
I could never really figure out why people could boo him the way they do..As you said before,,MVP one year and then two average seasons..However A Rods average seasons are far better than most peoples good seasons...People quote stats about his poor post season play ""AT LEAST WE ING MAKE THE POST SEASON"...


"A-Rod's like pollen, he always makes an impact in April and May."

I agree with the comments made about our staff. We haven't been that great and it's way too early. Also, I don't know where we're going to get hits at the bottom of the order. Pedroia looks lost at the plate, Coco (including the triple last night) is about 1-1000 with RISP and Tek, though I think he'll be fine, has lost a step.

But, although it's early, the Yanks are having a very tough time coming up with outs in the 5th-8th innings and your starting pitching is average, at best.

That said, I sense a sweep.
steven-neil
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Originally posted by djstopngo
"A-Rod's like pollen, he always makes an impact in April and May."

I agree with the comments made about our staff. We haven't been that great and it's way too early. Also, I don't know where we're going to get hits at the bottom of the order. Pedroia looks lost at the plate, Coco (including the triple last night) is about 1-1000 with RISP and Tek, though I think he'll be fine, has lost a step.

But, although it's early, the Yanks are having a very tough time coming up with outs in the 5th-8th innings and your starting pitching is average, at best.

That said, I sense a sweep.


i hate to agree with you but i do...

Also,,do you think Manny is losing it???...His mind seems elsewhere..
sheila-neil
Go sox! that said:

I really hope Yankees fans don't lose heart in Rivera. He'll be as devastating as ever, I'm sure. Yeah, he falters against the sox but he's one of the best and a cool dude to boot.
I was at opening day '05 when he got a standing O when he was announced in the line up as a dig from the fans. His response of a giant smile and raise of the cap was the BEST! It pissed me off to see folks giving him a standing O yesterday because it takes away from a cool baseball moment.
djstopngo
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Originally posted by steven-neil
i hate to agree with you but i do...

Also,,do you think Manny is losing it???...His mind seems elsewhere..


I don't think so. He's just not hitting well and that's compounded by his outfield play, which (though he plays the monster well) has always looked lackluster. An encouraging sign is that he has as many walks as strikeouts (9 a piece) which generally means a hitter's taking good at bats. One thing, too, to remember is that for such a dominant hitter, Manny's extremely streaky. He'll hit .200 one month and .375 the next. His numbers will be there at the end of the year, I think, and look for him to catch fire sometime around the beginning of June. If not, we're in trouble.

PS I know it's early, but Drew has looked great at the plate.

sheila-neil
^^ Thank you I argue with Steven all day long about baseball. Manny's numbers go up with the temperature.
ludawg23
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Originally posted by djstopngo
I don't think so. He's just not hitting well and that's compounded by his outfield play, which (though he plays the monster well) has always looked lackluster. An encouraging sign is that he has as many walks as strikeouts (9 a piece) which generally means a hitter's taking good at bats. One thing, too, to remember is that for such a dominant hitter, Manny's extremely streaky. He'll hit .200 one month and .375 the next. His numbers will be there at the end of the year, I think, and look for him to catch fire sometime around the beginning of June. If not, we're in trouble.

PS I know it's early, but Drew has looked great at the plate.


Manny's too good of a hitter, his numbers will definitely be there at the end of the season. Don't forget that he started off very slow last season as well and caught fire right around June.
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