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New York Yankees Thread (THIS THING OF OURS) (pg. 83)
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
Vlad we're definitely on the same page. There's just no way we can move giambi and damon, so getting two outfielders and moving matsui to DH is not realistic. Altough ideally i would like to see two new outfielders. |
Unfortunately, that is fact. But I think Id rather have Byrnes instead of Rowand, his youth is a plus, hes got an upside unlike Rowand who is at his plataeu... and hes just an awesome guy. :D |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Unfortunately, that is fact. But I think Id rather have Byrnes instead of Rowand, his youth is a plus, hes got an upside unlike Rowand who is at his plataeu... and hes just an awesome guy. :D |
Rowand is 29, and Byrnes is 31. rowand is a career .286 batter who's showing a little power this year. i prefer rowand |
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| steven-neil |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
We still have a hole at 1B, but i have no idea what we can get at that spot. |
whats wrong with Philips and what do you do with people like Cairo.. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by steven-neil
whats wrong with Philips and what do you do with people like Cairo.. |
cairo is a great utility man....we keep him. If philips has a good year from this point on, maybe we have a solution. The problem with philips is torre never gave him a shot to prove himself. I hope he does well because i like him and he's relatively young 27 i think, and he certainly doesn't have a big head.
Our championship teams were filled with role players. we need to get back to that. enough already with building a team with superstars. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
good point about picking up a closer now....any of these guys on the FA market this offseason? |
1. Armando Benitez. No.
2. Octavio Dotel. No.
3. Francisco Cordero. He was driven out of the AL. No.
4. Joe Nathan. YES!
5. Jason Isringhausen. No.
6. Eric Gagne. Only as a setup guy.
Side note.
Scott Linebrink is a FA, he would be a nice pickup for the bullpen. |
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| steven-neil |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
cairo is a great utility man....we keep him. If philips has a good year from this point on, maybe we have a solution. The problem with philips is torre never gave him a shot to prove himself. I hope he does well because i like him and he's relatively young 27 i think, and he certainly doesn't have a big head.
Our championship teams were filled with role players. we need to get back to that. enough already with building a team with superstars. |
So youre both agreed on who should stay and who should go..and youre both agreed on who we need....have we got a chance of getting them... |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by steven-neil
So youre both agreed on who should stay and who should go..and youre both agreed on who we need....have we got a chance of getting them... |
Sry James, I misread the DOB's. :p
We definitely have a shot at Rowand. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
1. Armando Benitez. No.
2. Octavio Dotel. No.
3. Francisco Cordero. He was driven out of the AL. No.
4. Joe Nathan. YES!
5. Jason Isringhausen. No.
6. Eric Gagne. Only as a setup guy.
Side note.
Scott Linebrink is a FA, he would be a nice pickup for the bullpen. |
Haha...remember we had dotel last year and he pitched all of 3 games or something like that. what a waste of one million.
i agree with nathan.
Steven....we have a shot with the outfielders because they are free agents at the end of the season. As for pitchers, i'm at a loss. hopefully we can find some internal solutions.
I just checked the relief pitching free agent market this offseason, it doesn't look good. We have to trade for someone. It looks like cordero is teh best FA on the offseason market |
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| Vlad |
Yankee FAs:
Bobby Abreu - bye
Jim Brower - bye
Miguel Cairo - shrugs
Roger Clemens - shrugs
Erubiel Durazo - bye
Terrence Long - bye
Doug Mientkiewicz - bye
Mike Myers - stay
Jeff Nelson - retired
Andy Pettitte - one more year
Jorge Posada - retire in pinstripes
Todd Pratt - bye
Mariano Rivera - retire in pinstripes
Alex Rodriguez - retire in pinstripes
Ron Villone - bye
Luis Vizcaino - bye |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Yankee FAs:
Bobby Abreu - bye
Jim Brower - bye
Miguel Cairo - shrugs
Roger Clemens - shrugs
Erubiel Durazo - bye
Terrence Long - bye
Doug Mientkiewicz - bye
Mike Myers - stay
Jeff Nelson - retired
Andy Pettitte - one more year
Jorge Posada - retire in pinstripes
Todd Pratt - bye
Mariano Rivera - retire in pinstripes
Alex Rodriguez - retire in pinstripes
Ron Villone - bye
Luis Vizcaino - bye |
i don't agree with Vizcaino. he looks to be improving when torre doesn't overwork him.
i think our bullpen could improve if used the correct way...torre sucks at managing the bullpen. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i think our bullpen could improve if used the correct way...torre sucks at managing the bullpen. |
I couldnt agree more.
Edit: The proof is in the 2+ innings Mike Myers pitched today. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
I couldnt agree more. |
he needs to let the starters go deeper into games, and maybe get out of their own messes. He needs to stop using proctor every day. He needs to bring in the worst pitchers in the mop up situations. He needs to stop bringing in farnsworth, period.
on a side note, i think we can unload farnsworth to an NL team. |
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